How surviving without power taught us resilience through Sandy
Living without modern conveniences can be quite the challenge, but it also presents an opportunity to reconnect with resilience and resourcefulness that many have lost in today’s tech-driven world. Experiences like those during Hurricane Sandy highlighted just how dependent society has become on electricity, heat, and technology. Many New Jersey residents faced extended power outages and discovered innovative ways to cope with the absence of their usual amenities.
Listeners shared anecdotes that reflect the creativity and spirit of those trying times. One person recounted using buckets for bathing when hot water was out of the question. Another described cooking meals on a gas stove, relying on simple recipes that didn’t require the usual gadgets. The emotional weight of enduring these challenges brought people together, often transforming neighborhoods into tight-knit communities as everyone worked collectively to solve problems.
The addiction to technology is undeniable. Many people found themselves reaching for their phones out of habit, only to remember they had no way to charge them or access internet connections. The constant need to be ‘plugged in’ seems almost ingrained, leaving many uncomfortable when the power is out. It was a nostalgic reminder of a time before smartphones and streaming services combined to dictate daily routines.
During Sandy, the absence of electricity extended beyond just inconveniences. Many residents faced difficulties maintaining heating, which can be especially daunting in cold weather. Creative solutions arose, such as using gas fireplaces for warmth or boiling water on gas stoves to take makeshift baths. The ability to gather around these sources of warmth, whether physically or emotionally, helped foster solidarity among neighbors.
While navigating these hardships, people shared techniques to manage everyday tasks without their usual conveniences. Detailed accounts surfaced about the lengths taken to stay resourceful: filling buckets with water, heating them on the stove, and using them for showers; finding alternative ways to prepare meals, and even devising systems for lighting up homes with battery-powered lanterns. Each story brings listeners back to a time of simpler living, leading many to reflect on their relationships with technology and the comforts they often take for granted.
The lessons learned during these trying times can remain significant in fostering an appreciation for both innovation and the basics of life. With every story shared, it is evident that when stripped of the essentials, the human spirit thrives in creativity and adaptability, reminding everyone of the strength that lies in community and resilience. As conversations continue around the importance of infrastructure and the need for upgrades, they also highlight the nostalgia for times when life was slower, encouraging people to disconnect from devices and reconnect with one another.
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Parks Casino, New Jersey. Chime time is 10:09. I got the job. Judy Franco here across from EJ/ Eric Johnson. It's the Judy and EJ program. Kyle also with us. You know why I said I got the job? Cuz Kyle has to say to me, I hope you get the job. Ah, yes. Uh, always off the air. It's great to be back with you guys. I am thrilled. I cannot tell you how much I miss you over these past 48 hours or so. Um, and we have so much to talk about. I actually considered doing Where are you now? But I forgot we did it on Monday. We did do it Monday. So, this is like a Thursday Monday for you. It is. But, you know, I I'm glad that we decided last minute to talk about this, EJ, cuz it's something that really needed to be discussed. And you and I kind of put this story on our list every day and then end up not talking about it. But I didn't even realize there's a child check alarm at the back of a school bus so that you don't leave a a kid on the bus when you're the bus driver. Why? Well, because there have been so many instances of bus drivers leaving kids on the bus. one time in the bus depot like overnight it got so out of control that finally they started putting this alarm on the bus. But the kid the um driver apparently has to walk to the back of the bus to turn off the switch to show that he's checked the bus. Apparently, one day uh 4 years ago, a driver went back and turned off the alarm 3 minutes before the students exited the bus. I guess it saves them a little time to do it before the run actually ends. So, between the driver and the aid, they turned off the alarm prematurely. Turned out a kid was actually left on the bus. The bus driver and the aid were fired after an investigation happened in Egg Harbor Township School. Of course, now uh the sleeping preschooler's parents because the 4-year-old was left on the bus for 5 hours, they're now suing the school district. Now, here's my issue. You guys know if you've been listening to me for any length of time, that most lawsuits, I think, are frivolous. Um, if something didn't cause you irreparable harm, if something didn't cause you the loss of hundreds of thousands of dollars, if everybody is fine, that is your reward. You don't need money also. And the fact that they fired the bus driver and the aid, I think, is what I would need. I would ne not even necessarily need the bus need the bus driver and the aid to be fired. I would need an apology and an assurance that the school that they were not going to let it happen again. Here's the thing. People are humans. They're not machines. They make mistakes. They messed up. Okay, fine. Uh, fire them. If that's what is important to you and you really care about the future of all the children who might be left on the bus, fire these two. But why do you need money? Everything is fine. Does anybody agree with me? The kid was on the bus for 5 hours. Sleeping. You know what sleeping means? They had no idea. 1 8002831015 is our phone number. So, do you think the parents deserve money? I don't know what they're suing them for, but you know, it's going to be a lot of money. You know that they were ready to that they were going to sue them. Has to be. Anytime anybody messes up, you got to sue them. And here's the thing. According to this article, and I'm reading this from nj.com, uh the lawyer said for the family says, "Thankfully, it wasn't a freezing cold day because it could have been a worse situation." Exactly. So, it was a no harm, no foul type situation. Right. Exactly. Something went wrong. somebody made a mistake, but it wasn't like there were the person was damaged or injured or the child was sleeping and no no further damage, right? It was exactly. Um, so I really want to know, okay, the the people did not follow the rules. They turned off the alarm before the kids got off the bus. I get it. So fire them. What do you want them to do now? The school district owes you money because your child took a nap on the bus instead of at home. It just doesn't. I'm sorry. These lawsuits are why we have the problems that we have with people suing for no reason and why our legal system, our judicial system is so messed up. We need some kind of tort reform here in the state or it this is going to continue forever and always. And by the way, the money the school districts going to have to pay or whatever they settle for, that's our money. You know, it's taxpayer money. 1 800 2831015. Let's go to um Ann Marie in Spotswood who is a bus driver and wants to weigh in. Thrilled to hear from you, Anmarie. Good morning. Yeah. Um I'm I'm not at all sticking up for the bus driver, the aid, but I just wanted to let you know that when you go to pick up a child and you're you activate your red lights, you open the door, that automatically activates the child um safety thing in the back, the button. So, when you're all done and you get to the front of the school to drop off your kids, by law, you have to shut the bus off because there's an idling law. In order to open the door, you have to shut that alarm off because it'll beep really loud. So, it's not it's not that they shut it off prematurely. We all have to do that in order to open the door. Well, what this article says, and I and I really I'm glad you called to give me some insight into how this thing works, but it says they turned off a child check alarm minutes before the students got off the bus. So, you can do that. We all do that. Okay. So, then they're going to lose this lawsuit because they're claiming that that's what resulted in their daughter being left alone on the bus. No, because we all do that in order to let the kids off the bus because you can't keep the bus running. That would be the only way to keep that alarm on because there's idling laws. Okay. So, would you would you then Amarie would you agree with me then that the bus driver and the aid should have been I don't know disciplined not well yeah def definitely because regardless of that it's not that they they shut it off prematurely. They did that right. it when our policy where I work is when you leave the school you you park on the side and you check your bus again if you get so far if you say you come back to the yard with a child you discovered like right then you're still going to get fired you cannot what do you got well my question is is where is the alarm up by your control panel or do you have to walk Yeah you have to walk to the back of the bus to push the button to that way you're actually walking through and checking, right? But because there's students on the bus, it it does no good in the morning because we have to shut it off to open the door. Right. So, you have to walk to the back of the bus, push the button, and then open the door. Yep. So, the girl was found sleeping in the empty school bus, which had been parked on a lot at the school's transportation department. Security cameras inside the bus turned off after the bus was returned to the lot, making it unclear what happened to the young girl during the time she was missing. But we know what happened to the young girl. Nothing. Never happened. Yeah, that should have never happened cuz the aid and the driver should have checked the bus again. I checked my time. So, Amar, I I really appreciate your insight, but I want to move on to some other callers. But I'm glad to hear that you agree there was something that was done incorrectly. Right. But you walk to the back of the bus, you push the button, you walk to the front of the bus, everybody gets off, the kids asleep. But so something's wrong with the order of things here. Yeah. Right. I know. I They should have sensors in the seats, maybe, you know, and if somebody's still on the seat, a light is still on. I don't know. Right. Well, what they're supposed to do is go and like recheck the seats and not just, you know, rely on the alarm. Okay, I get it. You fired the school bus driver. I still don't understand why does this why does this family deserve money? And a lot of people have something to say about this. And by the way, there was I get I mean I will give them this the people the kid the family comes to pick the kid up right right at the end of the day or go to the bus stop or whatever and the kid is not there. I mean that's frightening. Yeah, it is frightening. Absolutely. Sure. But that doesn't mean right. So I don't want to minimize how you know what that it is a serious situation but then when nothing happens that's your reward. Why is an apology enough? Somebody screwed up. Maybe I I'll share a story that something that happened to me when I was a little kid. Well Joe wants to talk um and he says bus companies cannot make one mistake. and I cannot wait to hear his point of view. Also, Ann and Sandre, please hang on. We're gonna get to you in a minute. 10:18. Here's New Jersey. When you're hiring, support Americanmade tariff-free clothing with American Giant. They aren't affected by tariffs because their clothing products never left the US. Get 20% off your first order when you use promo code staple 20 at american-giant.com. Coach, the energy out there felt different. What changed for the team today? It was the new game day scratchers from the California lottery. Play is everything. Those games sent the team's energy through the roof. Are you saying it was the off-field play that made the difference on the field? Hey, a little play makes your day and today it made the game. That's all for now. Coach, one more question. Play the new Los Angeles Chargers, San Francisco 49ers, and Los Angeles Rams scratchers from the California Lottery. A little play can make your day. Please play responsibly. Must be 18 years or older to purchase, play, or claim. Yay, Judy's back. The Judy and EJ show. Thank you, Kyle Hini. It's New Jersey 101.5. The parents of a 4-year-old girl left on board a school bus for 5 hours back in 2024 has filed a lawsuit against the EHT school district. According to nj.com, Judy, we live in an overly latigious society. We do. And for those of you north of 195, eht a Car Township. Okay. Cuz I didn't know what you're talking about. There's many different egg harbors in New Jersey. There's little A Carbor, there's a Carver city, and there's a and a Carbor Township, the great Aar River. This is Aar Township, which is just inland from in land inland from Atlantic City. In Atlanta, it's funny because I did not know that. So, I think the airport isn't Atlantic City airport in one. It's an inver township. Okay. And a Carver City is farther into the Pines. It's It's like between Maze Landing and Hamilton and that area. Little Earbor is in Ocean County. The greater Carver River greater Carver River runs landing in Summers Point. What's that? Completely different town. Little like Harbor. Yeah. Totally a different county. Different county. Wow. Did not know that. All right. Uh the more you know. 18002831015. So um is this a frivolous lawsuit? These parents suing because their four-year-old slept on the bus for 5 hours. Give me a break. Everything is fine. All's well that ends well. Isn't that enough of a reward? You need money, too. Anytime somebody makes a mistake, you need money, too. I don't get it. Joe in Hampton, he says he agrees. However, Joe, uh, good afternoon. So, I live in a small town. We have two buses. Our town with our taxes pays about $100,000 a year per bus. So if you go to a bigger town with more buses or a bigger district, the taxpayers are paying millions of dollars a year on bus service. Now the other problem is there's no competition. It's not like there's two or three bus services to go. There's usually one. So the people and the taxpayers of New Jersey are screwed. Now, they can go to their local school board and they can find out exactly how much money per year their taxes are paying for a a bus service, which is is it's it's in incredible. Now, I think the people shouldn't be fired. They should be they should be sued to put them in check because they're ripping the state of New Jersey and the taxpayers off all these bus companies. But why do you why do you I mean that's not the purpose of a lawsuit is not to put them in check. Of course it is. If you if you sue someone for a million dollars or a dollar, it's to tell people what if they're going to donate that. See, I don't I don't I disagree with that. I think the when you're suing somebody for negligence, they did they already sent their message, Joe, they fired those people so it won't happen again. Isn't the point of the lawsuit so it won't happen again? They fired them because their insurance company probably told them to fire them. Okay. So, the family should get m How does the family getting $100,000 from taxpayer money? How does that stop it from happening again? I don't understand. I really don't. It doesn't stop It doesn't stop. And that's the problem. Well, you just said you just said the point of the lawsuit is to put them in check, but it doesn't. They have endless amounts of money coming in. I'm not saying the point of that lawsuit, but the point of someone making a mistake that's ripping you off, you should put them in check and tell them they're ripping you off. Okay. I think that we're talking about apples and oranges here. And I understand what you're saying, but I I I'm not talking about how much money the bus companies make or how much they charge the district. That's a different topic. Talking about a family whose child was left on the bus, who have gained everything because the child was fine and nothing happened to her. What is the point of suing the bus company? How do you know? How do you know nothing happened to this child? Cuz cuz they they know the child is fine. The child sle took a nap on the bus. Child's fine and woke and woke up and their their family wasn't there. I mean, oh wow. I should get $100,000 for every time my kid woke up scared. Are you kidding me? Joe, give me a break. All right. I love you. Thank you. I think we're talking about two different things here, but I appreciate the call to New Jersey. What I want boy. Is it just It's as simple as it's a money grab. It's an opportunity for the family to make some money that that would help them get out of debt or whatever. Kids go to the hospital, they wake up, their parents aren't there somebody. Kids go to preschool, I mean to daycare, they wake up every day, the parents not there or who they thought was going to be there isn't there. A four-year-old is not traumatized for life because he took a nap on a bus. And why did it take five hours? Were the parents negligent because they took them five hours to discover their kid wasn't around? No, I think it was that um the kid should have been in school. It was like in the school park. Yeah. Okay. They were supposed to be picking the kid up at 2:00 when they went there. But then they do the uh the absence thing and if the kid's not there and there's not an excused absence, then the school reaches out to the parent. Well, the school apparently that didn't happen in this case, but whatever it is, however many mistakes were made. Yeah. Can't people make mistakes? A mistake was made with me. I was six or seven and I the I guess I must have gotten on the wrong maybe it was my fault. I don't know. But I ended up like a mile and a half away from home. They dropped me off in another neighborhood. There were there were woods between my neighborhood and the other neighborhood and the only way to get home that I really kind of knew of was just to follow the train tracks home until I saw something that looked familiar. So, you know, I'm wandering. How old were you? 17. I think I was seven. Yeah, I was I was 21. Was after a rough night. No, I was it's I was 7 years old. They let me go at the wrong neighborhood and I said to the bus driver, "Is this the last stop?" And they and he answered accurately, "Yes, this is the last stop." Okay. So then I went, you little EJ went down the steps and oh, there's the railroad tracks. I'm going to follow that. I'm going to go that way cuz I know the house is I eventually got home. My parents were very, very upset and I was in my classroom and the principal and the bus driver came by. They apologized. I was cry. That was the end of it. It was just an apology. My parents didn't even think about suing the school, you know. Well, a lot of people have a lot of opinions about this. EJ, uh, what do you think? Four-year-old in Egg Harbor Township was left on the bus napping for 5 hours and the parents are suing. I don't know. I just think it's a little crazy. Your reward should be that everything was okay. Was I 17? Come on. 1 8002831015 is our phone number. Your call is next right now. 10:30. [Music] Everything from clothing to household items are getting more expensive each day. American Giant is about keeping things simple and close to home. They aren't affected by tariffs because their products never leave the US. Support Americanmade tariff-free clothing with American Giant with American Giant. Get 20% off your first order when you use promo code staple 20 at american-giant.com. That's 20% off when you use code staple20 at american-giant.com. This is the story of the one. 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And if you know, listen, and even with mistakes, I always feel like if it ends up that something bad did happen, but the kid is fine now. Isn't that enough? But okay, I get it. People have to sue people. But even the lawyer said, their lawyer said, "Imagine if it had been cold out. Imagine if there had been a fire." Yeah. Imagine all these things. All these things could have happened. They didn't happen. They did not happen. Exactly. EJ. Couldn't have put it better myself. Let's go to Sandra, Sandra, and Whippony. Don't you love that name? Hi. Whippony. Yeah. Whippony. Whippony. Like cool whip. Cool. Whip. Hi Sandra. Hi Judy. How are you? We're good. So, so my son, he's 32 now, but when he was four, he was brought to school. Came home from school 2:30. I get a call at 3:00. I'm so sorry. Transportation department called me. I'm so sorry. Uh, we apologized so much. I said, why? What's wrong? Oh, I I had no idea. And she said, then she explained to me that they left him on the bus because he had fallen asleep. He fell down, you know, laid down on the chair, fell asleep, and they went to Shopright. And when they came out of the shop right after they dropped the kids off, they realized Nikki was still in the bus. So they And what happened? What happened? So So they brought him back to the school and I knew nothing. And he came home from school fine. He was fine. He was playing. And I didn't know why the transportation department was apologizing to me. I'm like, "What happened? What's wrong? So, you know, he was right. They just needed you to know in case he comes home and goes, "Mommy, I took a trip to Shop, right?" But then you see, well, that's exactly what happened. I asked him, I said, "What happened, Nick?" He said, "Oh, I was at Shop Right." I was like, "Okay." So, you know, he wasn't harmed and, you know, it was, you know, not fine. I mean, and we didn't we didn't get them fired. They were suspended. You know, my father was lived with me at the time and he used to talk to the bus driver. He said, "Oh, you know, he said, well, you want to get them fired." So, they weren't fired. They were suspended. Right. Gotcha. He was okay. He was okay. And then other people would say, "Oh, you could have sued them. Why? He's fine. He was a mistake." And, you know, there were two lovely ladies. I mean, he laid down and he fell asleep. And it was Why should they have to lose their jobs over a a mistake? and two lovely people. You don't need to ruin their career. Sandra, thank you so much. That's the way people used to think. Kids, that was the olden days. Yeah. And sometimes a proven policy change would just be enough. This happened, right? The procedure didn't go right. Change the policy. Apologize. Move on. Don't let your your your kid be an excuse for you to get like a a payday. I know, EJ. It's just so change the policy, train better, do, you know, fix the problem, but I don't think suing is necessary. I agree. Kathy Floren Park, hi guys. How are you? I'm very good. I hope you guys are well today. Um, I heard a lot of the other um people saying, you know, that it was okay to sue and all that. And let me tell you something. With all the crap that's going on in this world today, if that had ever happened to my children who are now grown adults, but did take the bus every day till they were in 8th grade, if my child came home alive and well and not sexually assaulted, no amount of money can replace that fact. You know, she's so I didn't even Kathy, this is such a good point. I didn't even think of it in terms of today's environment, but it's like there with all the thousands of things that could go wrong, you're not just thrilled your kid comes home safe to you. It would be the most it would be the most unbelievable feeling that that money is not when you when you're talking about your child and in this case, money is not a factor. Period. 100% period. And I'm very disgusted with people who try to gain some type of monetary uh um uh uh compensation for the fact that the kid fell asleep. Okay. Really? Was he molested? Was he burned? Was he was he kidnapped? Did he get cut off his head? You know what I mean? They found him in the woods. She went there, Kyle. Yeah. Crap going on. I saw Kyle. I mean, they were all bad, but cutting the head off. Jeez. But you know what? She taught her kid. He was safe and she probably hugged him and kissed him to death and said, "Thank God, but I'm gonna sue." No, Kyle. Kyle, I mean, Kathy, I'm sorry. Kathy, I hear you. Couldn't agree with you more and you really make some good points, especially considering stuff we're going like in this day and age. Really, it's not enough. Kathy, thank you so much for calling New Jersey 101.5. Can we sneak Lisa in too? Um, what happened, Cath? Lisa? Well, I went to a high-risisk pregnancy doctor, yada yada yada. I kept telling him about these pains I was having. He said, "Oh, it's your side ligaments, your side ligaments." And uh fast forward to giving birth, and the short story is I I bled out on the table. There was an issue. It's a rare issue. Kim Kardashian has it. And I uh went into a coma and I was in a coma for a couple of days and uh I woke up and um I had, you know, I had a couple issues for about two weeks. My kid was fine. I was fine. Everybody's telling me to sue the guy. First of all, it was a high-risisk guy. So, guess what? I was at high risk. And be I had I was fine. And my kid had 10 fingers and 10 toes. And no, we did not sue. Lisa, why are you think if I had died, my husband probably wouldn't have sued? Of course not. Because things I shouldn't say of course not. A lot of people would sue. I you know, I don't believe in that type of lawsuit because no amount of money is going to bring it back. Now, if a doctor says, "You know what? I know you have this problem, but I'm going to ignore it because I think I can do it this way instead," then you got yourself a case. If you have some sort of permanent damage, but what does money do? I need to know, Lisa, how you became this way? Yeah, we we called it blood money. Everybody was telling us to sue. I'm like, it's blood money. I I don't I'm fine. It was, you know, he he didn't see something. I had a rare condition. Um, it mirrored something else and um, you know, he I doubt he made the mistake again, but Lisa, I love you and that doctor I have to let you go because of the clock and I so appreciate the call, but I just want to add this to the end. That doctor never made that mistake again and he probably went home and lost he's probably still losing sleep over it. So, no amount of money I is is she's okay, you know. Yeah. All right, we got to take a break. Um, I want to talk to John, though. He got left in a very unusual space in fourth grade. You've got to hear this story coming up next on Judy DJ. Stay here. Hey guys, your family safe. This is the story of the one. As a custodial supervisor at a high school, he knows that during cold and flu season, germs spread fast. It's why he partners with Granger to stay fully stocked on the products and supplies he needs. from tissues to disinfectants to floor scrubbers. All so that he can help students, staff, and teachers stay healthy and focused. Call 1800 Granger. Click granger.com or just stop by. Granger for the ones who get it done. It's the Judy. I am a uh school bus mishap survivor. I got off a mile and a half away from home. I walked home. Everything was okay. I got an apology and everybody seemed okay with that. But I can tell you what this this lawsuit's probably going to say. Negligence of duty and endangerment of endangerment of child safety, emotional stress, failure fail failure to follow safety procedures, all these things that they're going to trump up. They're going to put as many things on there as possible to get this settlement as high as they could possibly get it. And the kids fine. I mean, it's insane. And I was, as I was telling you off the air, EJ, you know how the kid how you know the kid's fine because they would have said, "And now the child has nightmares every night, and now the child doesn't like the color yellow and is very triggered by yellow because that's the school bus color." And they would have said all this stuff, which they will say if it ever got to a jury, but it won't because the school's going to take our tax dollars and go settle. Yeah. What's enough? 50 grand, 25, 100. What do you want? What do you want? Right. All right, John. Then mom and kid leave the kid at home and go to the Caribbean. Exactly. Exactly. So true. John and Tom's River. I told you. Good morning, Judy. How you guys doing today? Good. I heard you got abandoned in a very, very interesting place. Tell us the story. Yeah, so real quick. So, it was this happened years ago, late ' 80s. I was in fourth grade, and we took a class trip to the Bronx Zoo. Now, I used to live in northern New Jersey. Um, so it was quite a bit uh ways away. Anyway, we go to the zoo and they're rounding up students to uh obviously get back on the bus to leave and they have them into small groups. So, it's me, my friend, and my friend's mother who was our chaperone, just the three of us. We walk out to the parking lot thinking that it was our time to leave. And the parking lot at the Bronx is completely empty of any buses, all gone. So, long story short, my the chaperon uh my friend's mother calls her husband. He says, "I can meet you." He goes, "But you're going to have to catch another bus to this location at like a KFC somewhere, whatever on the New Jersey side." So, we got to walk around the Brock uh the zoo one more time for free. We ended up hopping on a senior citizen tour bus who dropped us off at a KFC in Jersey, met us the father. I got a free dinner out of it and then we went home and I went back to school the next day with no issues. Oh my god. And nobody sued. And by the way, I'd rather have my four-year-old napping in the bus depot than lost in the Bronx Zoo. Wouldn't you? I mean, that's a little scary. Well, actually, I mean, as a kid, it might be a little scary, but again, I got KFC for dinner and I got a free, you know, second round of the Bronx Zoo. So, I mean, I couldn't argue. I wasn't upset at all. It was actually totally fine. You actually got a reward. What do you got? Exactly. Yeah. Right. Hey John, thanks for calling New Jersey 101.5. So this is why I feel strongly that it's an overly legit I can't even say it. Legitious society. I'm at a stoplight. I'm rearmed by a SEPTA bus. I'm just sitting there minding my own business and the people on the bus sued me. So it's hard for me to be think any other way that we don't live in an overly latigious society. Sorry. Are you kidding? Yeah. I was I was sitting at a red light. The SEPTA bus rear ended me and obviously I probably could have had a suit, a lawsuit, but the people on the bus sued me for causing the accident. I was just sitting there. So, I had to deal with all that BS. Yeah, but your insurance company, you didn't. There's no way. No, no, none of that happened. But still, I mean, people that just look for a reason to sue really aggravates me. Me, too. Sorry. Do you think we have time to take this next call, though? Go for it, Judy. Got to be quick. All right, Ravine, do it quick. These stories aren't quick. Hey Judy and uh yeah so the the the story of mine which I was trying to explain earlier that back in 2015 we were coming back from a break from our home country and friend of us came to visit us in Chicago O'Hare airport. We were talking with them and my 7-year-old decides to go back to the minivan which we had rented then and uh while crossing the road the the cab driver come and just went over on his leg literally. Oh no. Oh yeah. So this was while my wife was carrying a one-year-old and I was talking to a friend and she just saw the other one is missing uh nearby and she looked around and this my son was walking towards the car. He she just screamed his name and then he turned around what mom and that's when his only one was on the main road and by the time that cab came and like boom not turned I know. So this entire episode happened we had to call 911. There are like bunch of vehicles came. Police report happened what not you know it was like a a movie scene in in middle of an airport. We were coming back from a nice trip. We never imagined we will be end up we had to rush back you know to the main hospital. We ended up knowing that he has two fractures whatnot next 3 months on a cast. But at the end of the day, my focus at that time was how my child is going to be okay. What should I be doing? Taking care of him. I love you. I can I just tell you I love you because that's what your focus should be. The kid's fine. He ended up okay. What is money going to do for you? I'm sorry. I have to end this story here, but thank you so much for calling. I love you. That's the way all Americans should be. Policy change should be enough, Judy. Policy change should be enough. 100%. Your phone calls coming up next. Stay with us. Judy. Support Americanmade tariff-free clothing with American Giant. They aren't affected by tariffs because their clothing products never left the US. Get 20% off your first order when you use promo code staple 20 at american-giant.com. Bet Park's online casino and sportsbook app, New Jersey Chime Time is 11:10. It's Judy and EJ. I'm Judy Franco. There's EJ. And my buddy Kyle's over there. Judy, it was a really really big night last night. Oh, wrong theme song. Well, that was that was the Yankees. Oh, do the Phillies have a theme song? I don't think so. If they do, it better be better than that. But the Yankees Are you kid Look it up, Kyle. It is the best theme song. I'm sure the Yankees have one. I don't know if the Phillies have a theme song. I don't think they do. They have a fanatic, but I'm assuming it was a bigger night cuz it was Sopranos's tribute. Well, I'm going to get to that in a second. Oh, well, it was hitten weather last night. I just want to say Charlie Manuel used to say hit and weather and there was all kinds of home runs last night. Like eight, two from Schwarber, three from Sosa and uh Phillies beat Miami 11 to1 last night and they clinched a buy. They've got a first round buy in the playoffs, but that was a distraction because I was at Sopranos trivia last night. Judy, did I tell you about that? Last week I went to Sopranos trivia. I thought that was Kyle that did that. No, no, it was in a brewery near my house and I came in third out of eight teams and I wasn't even a team. I went by myself and there were the the people in first and second place. It was like six people at a table and team-wise they beat me, but I was by myself and I came in third. I'm very impressed by that. And you know what? And Judy, there's one more thing. I'm sorry. I I'm I'm taking over the show here. Kyle got his lasagna last night. No, no, no. Eggplant parm. Why do I keep saying lasagna? Lasagna yesterday. I guess I have to make that next. Why'd you get it last night? The eggplant parm. I made I made it Tuesday. He ate it. Um I had it for dinner last night. Ally and I sent EJ a picture of both of us eating it. It was delicious. Yes. And I uh I brought some in to have for lunch again today. Does this make you like finally accepting the step? I I'll tell you what, the eggplant parm may have fully put me cuz I had no idea what to expect. I've had eggplant parm but not very frequently. And so when I had EJ's, I said I said to Ally, I was like, I'm this is phenomenal. Like this is amaz I don't know if I've had something better. And so it was really really good. Yep. Oh my god. Okay, now we need to take a minute for this. And I mean, super easy. I just popped it in the oven, got it right, and bam, it was all good. What is that? Is this the Yankees theme song? Oh, yeah. Do you have a Sopranos trivia question on the mind, by the way, that you could remember? And I want to see if I know some of these answers. We have to listen. Apparently, we have to listen to this Yakis theme song. Sorry. Okay, we get the feel. It's so old school. I love Yeah. I mean, this must have been played when Lou Garrick was there. I I Well, Shut up. Shut up, idiot. Because this is from my child. Well, Lou Garrick probably played your child. I guess we need to do that because we did open up the hour talking about the Phillies, so we do need to offer equal time during this uh controversial political and baseball playoff season. By by the way, the Mets also have a meet the Mets. Beat the Mets, isn't it? Beat the Mets. Beat the Mets. Of course, it's beat the Mets. Beat the Mets. But but also I want to tell you something. Um I cannot believe I find it very hard to believe and I think you guys are just uninformed. There's got to be a song there. Maybe the Cubs have I think the best one and go it's after they win. Go Cubs go Cubs go. Hey Chicago, what do you say? The Cubs are going to win today. Get out of here. Yeah, it's really good. I mean I sang it horribly but it's a good song. To me that is like what baseball is about. like that that theme song. Baseball's great. I love it. Yeah, but you're the Phillies don't have a song. Eagles obviously have a song for that but no to my knowledge. No song. Okay, hold on a second. Philly's World Series theme song. Well, that might have been when was this from that um Dancing on My Own was there for a while. Yeah, Dancing on my own. You're gonna get me really in my feels right now. This was a great time in my life, you guys. This is And then there's like a home run song from 2025. You guys, this is pathetic. How do you have a How do you have a team that doesn't have a theme song? So, they're just songs by other artists that have nothing to do with the act. It's not a jingle for the team like the Yankees have. I I don't recall the Phillies ever having a jingle for the team. Now, they really The home run song that you're talking about, I think when when you're at the ballpark, and by the way, I'm supposed to go tonight cuz I won Phillies tickets from trivia last week, right? Um their home run song is like It just keeps going like that. Oh, you're really good at that. Thank you. Mouth trumpet. Let's get back to the sopranos just for one second, Judy, and then we'll get to the topic. You were going to one of the questions you asked me. One of the questions that came up. So, um, Paulie Gautieri. Paulie is not his first name. What's his first name? Oh man. Paulie Gautieri. He has the song. Paulie Paulie is his middle name. Gautier is his last name. What's his first name? I So, doesn't his mom call him it in the show? his fake mom. Nucci. Doesn't she call him this at one point? Yeah. I It's I watched the show. Why don't I know? Peter, you got it. Congratulations. All right. Wow. Anyway, I'm your third place Sopranos trivia guy. Congratulations. Uh we're both Me and EJ are both Sopranos. Not you guys. But you know that I love The Sopranos. Every minute of it. I don't remember one thing. I mean, him and I have seen it a million times over. And I can tell that we are both similar in that we both have an obsession factor with it where I I'm I forced Ally to watch it. I've seen the show like five times. I was like, "We got to watch this together." And so you I mean there are shows that I'm obsessed with, but I don't know if I would remember every single But like I've seen Bridesmaids about 15 times. I know every line in the movie. I could do that with movies, but only if I've seen it a hundred times. Yes. Like even Breaking Bad was like my favorite show of all time. Like I can't even tell you. Like I know the m the theme. I know what it's about. I I don't remember. Isn't that terrible? You had to watch it again. It's the second watches that really, you know, put that information in your head probably. Anyway, um we do have to do a topic on that one day, guys, though. This the stuff that you've watched over and over and over and over and over and over again like a loser. Um but we have actually something important to discuss with you and that is there are plenty of people in this state right this minute who have seen what is known as an unidentified flying object UFOs. Um there are so many things that fly around that could be considered UFOs. Remember a UFO does not mean necessarily like do you believe in UFOs? Of course. Cuz I've seen things in the sky that like they're unidentified. That doesn't mean necessarily that they come from another planet, that they have Martians on them going, "Take me, do your leader." Doesn't mean that. So, we want to know what have you seen um that you actually think was some kind of strange being maybe from another planet. What is it that it is uh an unidentified flying object that you have seen? And are you convinced that maybe it came from another galaxy? 1 80028310115 is our phone number. EJ, please. Yeah. Do you remember a few years ago? Uh I mean it was more than a few years ago, but up on Route One, I think it was by Edison or New Brunswick, but I think we sent Ray the prize guy up there to check out what it was, but there was this black cylinder balloon thing that nobody knew what it was. And it was just floating in the air and we had all these calls about. Everybody was seeing it because it was right in the middle of our listening area. And and nobody knew what it was. It was never identified. Um, but it clearly didn't come from space. So, it was maybe it was some school kids project, but everybody saw it. You know what's made these things even worse? Things like the the Ring camera notifications you get and the next door and all these people like there was that whole thing with the drones last year. It was just drones. Yeah, but the drone thing was weird, EJ, because it was just drones. I didn't see any. So, you think it was just like people were just blowing it out of proportion? People were hyper sensitive that these and they've always been there, but all of a sudden it turned into a thing. We went to a park one night and we saw things. That's a plane. That's a plane. That's a plane. That might be it. Somebody right at the park was flying a drone. People make things up in their brain. They overthink things. They make things much worse than they really are. Just like I overthink this show. That means you care though, Judy. You really do care. Okay. All right. So, 1800 2831015. What have you seen in the sky that you are convinced is something either nefarious or something from another planet and we really do need to take another look at it? 1 8002831015 is our phone number. Do you really believe these things exist or are they as EJ is saying just you know one guy posted something and then that goes viral. What was that bang? What was that bang last night? Oh yeah that bang. What's that bang? I think it was it was fireworks. Go on the next door app. Oh god. You'll kill yourself. All right, your calls coming up next. 11:119. Here's New Jersey Fenyion and Walsh for people like coach. The energy out there felt different. What changed for the team today? It was the new game day scratchers from the California lottery. Play is everything. Those games sent the team's energy through the roof. Are you saying it was the off- field play that made the difference on the field? Hey, a little play makes your day and today it made the game. That's all for now. Coach, one more question. Play the new Los Angeles Chargers, San Francisco 49ers, and Los Angeles Rams Scratchers from the California Lottery. A little play can make your day. Please play responsibly. 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Other towns with sightings recently include Ramsay, Rawway, Heightstown, and Margate. A total of 36 reports just this year alone. Judy, I love the phrase Pale Orb. I want to come up with like a punk band called Pale Orb or something like that or name my next child. Pale Orb Franco. I like Cold Hearted Orb. You know what song that's from? No. Colded Coldhearted Orb that rules the night. What song is that? They I don't know. Lights and white. Nights and White Satin by the Moody Blues. Okay. 1800283. Good. Everybody who's like 87 years old now knows what we're talking about. 18002 No. Wait a minute. Who's that guy? That actor that was in that commercial. Tim Timothy Shalamé. He was in a commercial. Nights and white satin was playing in the background. It doesn't get more more current than that. Yeah. It was for a fragrance or something and he's making a pouty face and nights and white satin. It's like you're making a pouty face. What commercial for perfume does not have an actor making a pouty face? Timothy Shalom with a pouty face. It was the poutiest face ever. Now I need you to find a clip from that. I need to see the pouty face. I'm going to find it now. You take the call. It was the pouty and all the pouty faces. You know how like you keep track of like pouty faces. It was the poutiest. It's Timothy Shalom. The poutiest face ever. Poutier than Kyle's is like sometimes when he's like bored with the show. He's not pouty today. No, but you know when Kyle gets like bored or like the Phillies lose or whatever it is and he gets like very pouty. Yeah. Is it like poutier than that? He's happy today because they clinched. Yeah, it is. But it is poutier than that. All right. 1800 2831015 is our phone number. Don't ask how he got into the pouty face. But have you ever seen a UFO? And what do you really think it was? 1 8002831015. Thomas in Newark, you saw one at the racetrack. Tell us about it. Hey, good morning. How you doing? We're good. So, it was a we were at the racetrack. It was just getting dark. You could still like see a little bit ahead of you, but it was it was dark. And we're up in the mountains where there's no no lights. When the stars come out at night, it looks like you're in a planetarium. That's how dark it is. Wow. So, we're just I'm just uh grilling on the grill. The kids are playing with their friends, running around. It was about 20 years ago. So all of a sudden we see this big bright light shine down on us like a cone. Like it was like went from small to big. It was this big bright light. It just stayed over top of us for maybe 10 seconds, something like that. And then all of a sudden it went back up as you would like dim a light with a light dimmer like out with go get smaller smaller. Okay. What do you think it is? What do you think it was? Well, it wasn't a helicopter because it was way too It came way too high in the air. It came from thousands of feet up air and we couldn't see anything but lights like a plane, nothing. And it just was still for that long. And it's like this is weird. It can't be a helicopter. It's way too high up. And we we didn't hear any noise or nothing. Just that light shined over us and then disappeared. Then all the kids came running up. They're like, "What was that big light shining down on us?" So, everyone saw it. All right. Soird. Wow. This is I can't believe this accent. Where are you from, Thomas? I'm from uh Bikersville, Pennsylvania. Oh, wow. Cuz this is the thickest accent. Like the can and everybody's sawing. Well, I was a little thrown off because he's calling from Newark, but I hear I hear a Philly accent. Wow. that if I've never heard I I was just dropping my wife off at the New York airport. Yeah, we knew it couldn't have been and and New York, you know, of course. Newark's in Delaware. New York's in New Jersey and he's like at the New Arc. Anyway, um so I was a little distracted by your accent, but I have to say, you know, the first thing people say when they think they've seen an unidentified flying or when they can't identify an object is, it's not this, it's not this, it wasn't this, and it wasn't this. But that doesn't mean it's not a thousand other things that aren't from other planets. You know what I'm saying? Right. But what kind of what kind of vehicle or airplane or whatever could do that? I don't have the answer to that. I don't have the answer to that. All I'm saying is what makes the you what what puts the you in it is the unidentifiability of it. And I feel like just because we can't as lay people who are not involved in the aviation industry or in the tech industry or in the drone industry, just because we can't identify it, that doesn't make it something nefarious. But somebody might call up and explain. Thomas, thank you so much for calling New Jersey 101.5. But there are people who like think for sure it's, you know, other people. I know space is infinite and you can't even like it boggles your mind thinking it goes on and on and on and on and on. It never ends. and there has to be something else out there. But because of that, I think the fact that Earth is where it's at this distance to the sun. It it was like the perfect situation to create what is here. I think that's highly unlikely. The high It is so unlikely that we are here and that we exist that I don't think it exists anywhere else. Therefore, UFOs are a figment of one's imagination. Are you smoking dope? Yeah. Smoking little weed. No, just a gummy today. No, but you know, like when people Oh, speaking of gummies, I'm at a family dinner yesterday and all of a sudden the cutest or lunch, I'm sorry. The cutest six-year-old kid in the world comes up to his mom, who's my niece, and he goes, "Mom, did you bring the gummies?" And I said, "I think we need to like change the vocabulary." Well, the child candy had it first. I know. So we got to like just call it like edibles or something because you know six and then he goes to school and he tells the teacher, "My mom gives me gummies every day." All right. 1 8002831015 is our phone number. Have you seen UFOs and are you convinced that there are people from other planets or beings who are coming here in vehicles? Your phone calls coming up at 1 8002831015 and our app chat is open to 11:30. Now Gasco's Family Farm is open. Coach, the energy out there felt different. What changed for the team today? It was the new game day scratchers from the California lottery. Play is everything. Those games sent the team's energy through the roof. Are you saying it was the off- field play that made the difference on the field? Hey, a little play makes your day and today it made the game. That's all for now. Coach, one more question. 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I'm not exactly sure what any of these things mean, but do I think it's impossible that there's there are other beings out there? No, I don't. I'm just saying people get like you said, EJ, people get hysterical, then they follow what other people say, and then it turns into this frenzy. Yeah. Relax. I blame the blame the Next Door app. It certainly is uh part of it. I'll tell you that. That Nextdoor app is But it's so funny. I can't get rid of it. It's so funny laughing at these old people that I cannot even get rid of it. And I get the the alerts, too, when they pop up, the push alerts, you know, there's a loose chihuahua in your neighborhood. All right, let's go to Marilyn in West Windsor. She saw something back in the 70s. What was it, Mar? Hey, Judy. Um Oh, yeah. Well, back in the 70 early 70s, I was living in Bel and it was all rural. We had a dairy farm behind the house and everything. So, I was up in my bedroom. I was living at home. I was in high school and I was waiting for some friends to call me to go to a party. So, I just happened to look out the front window and all of a sudden I see this big black thing. It looked like a blimp, but it had red lights on the back of it and it I heard the sound. It was hover like a hovering sound. It just missed my neighbor's roof and came like right over my house. So, I'm like freaking out. I run downstairs. I scream for my dad and my mom. They both go running out the back door and it's hovering over the over the backyard. Now, my dad's a scientist. He couldn't figure out what the heck this was. He was like in amaze cuz he would normally not believe anything. And so, as it started to go past our house to the farm, it went vertical and just kept going back and the red lights were on the top and on the bottom of it until it finally dissipated into the field somewhere and was out of sight. And we were just standing there stunned. So my dad calls the cops and asks them if there's anything weird happening or they knew of anything. They didn't. Then we called Maguire Air Force Base to see if they knew of anything or they were doing any testing. We still never figured out what it was and no one seemed to know. Is it possible? Okay. You and your family were not all sitting around sharing a joint, I'm guessing. Right. Smoking a little weed. Yeah. No. Okay. Um, but is it possible, and this was one of the things that was suspected during that whole uh, what do you call it? Drone Yeah. thing. That was just this past winter, right? It was like December, January. And then everybody said, "Okay, maybe the government is doing some kind of thing that they don't want to share with the public." Like, is that possible? Well, it could be because we figured even though we called even the Air Force and who they probably wouldn't tell us. It was just I wish and see it was before cell phones. I had no camera with me or anything there course, you know. So there was no documenting. The only thing I did really was draw a picture of it. But um they had said they had spotted some of these things in New York State as well that sort of mimicked my description, but you know, nothing was Yeah. Nothing was at that time. Nothing was ever said later about it. It's so interesting because you'd think that now we would know like now it'd be like, "Oh, yeah. Back in the 70s, we were doing some kind of weird weather balloon testing or whatever. I know I was I know I was sober cuz I wasn't at the party. So, I love that story, Marilyn. Thank you so much. One day, we're going to find out what all these things were. So, we were up at the cabin years ago, even before I think I knew what a drone was, but we were out on the deck one night, and we might have had a few drinks, but we're looking over like the valley, and we see this thing flying, and it's not flying like a plane. You know, a plane flies in a linear fashion. It just goes from point A to point B. This thing was going back and forth and up and down and over and out. And it was, we thought, is that a UFO? I mean, I have no idea. Looking back on it, it was probably a drone, right? Yeah. So, I would think half of these sightings are probably just drones. Of course, cuz even though we all just discovered recreational drones, I mean, these things have been around for a long time. The government has been Maybe it's a bad combination, recreational weed and recreational drones. That's what's freaking people out. I You know what, EJ? They have to illegalize one of those things. Al is Surf City, welcome to the program. Judy, wait. I want to make you feel better about the Sopranos trivia so you can redeem yourself. What was Jan Brady's madeup boyfriend's name? Oh, come on. Now you're gonna really Are you joking? George Glass. Okay. Well, I just want You said you didn't know any trivia about TV shows and I wanted to let you redeem redeem yourself. You know, you know that I used to do Stump Me on Brady Bunch trivia, but interestingly, because I know so much about that show. Interestingly, in Bridesmaid, my favorite movie that I also know every single word to, she used that joke. Yeah, she used that reference. She used that reference. It was She also made up a fake boyfriend and called him George Glass. So, I want to expand on I want to expand on your point on the UFO. So, expanding on your point of the the infinence of the universe. So you would have to believe that from trillions of miles away, trillions and trillions of miles away, there was another civilization that came up with the technology to travel infinitely across the universe happened to stumble upon us. And what they decided to do was fly down, shine a light on some guy from Bubble Creek, Pennsylvania, and disappear in that was their plan. They just disappear. I mean, it makes no sense. and to to people believing like they believe in ghosts. It's human nature to want to explain the unexplainable. And when you don't know something, you create something to explain it. It makes you feel better because we don't like to say we don't know. Okay. So, what do you think? You heard the caller earlier that saw that big black thing and that sounded really legitimate that she saw it. She wasn't smoking weed. What could that have been? You again, you get to the point where you say you don't know, right? That's all I say. You ever see that? Um, he's over all over the internet. The uh the physicist guy. I can't think of his name now. He's a raging liberal, but he's pretty smart. Um Oh, I can't negassie grassy. Yeah. Yeah. He always says, "Listen, we just say we don't know. There are things we don't know." So, and you go from there, but you try to figure it out. But remember back in ancient Roman times, they didn't understand how the sun set. So they made up a god named Apollo who drove the sun across this guy in his chariot because they don't know. We don't I don't know is not a popular phrase in this day and age as you know Al. So people need to explain it just like a ghost and all those things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh Al, thank you so much for calling. I love you. Getting back to that phrase, I don't know. You know, when you're younger, you feel like you do have to know. And what the one thing that our former consultant friend said to me that stuck with me, there's nothing wrong with not knowing. You know that I sometimes it's it's okay to say I don't know, but human nature says, well, you can't say that or people are going to toss you aside think you're an idiot. Especially now um with so with the internet and social media. Um and it really empowers people to act like they know everything. So if you don't know something, you're really a [ __ ] What? You have the internet. How do you not know something, right? And so, yeah, especially certain generations that I won't name. Um, very difficult for them. All right, it's 11:45. We got to take a quick break on the Judy and EJ show, but tell us about unidentified flying objects you've seen and what do you think they are or do you just not know? Your call is next. Well, Robert Dansky of Remax. It's Tom. It's 11:52 on the Judy and EJ show in a half hour. The $1,000 at work pay. They have another cash code for you for your chance to win the big money. Eyewitness accounts include a pale orb. A pale orb, Judy seen in Wayne on August 12th in a lowflying uh craft. It caused shaking in Winslow Township. So, we're talking about all things UFO. 1800283 101.5. Um, a pale orb. I can't even tell you what. There's so many things about that that irk me. Yeah. It's I don't know why I get the ick from hearing that. You see that on the beach in May? Exactly. A lot of pale orbs. A lot of pale orbs. Um, but I do believe that there are a lot of people in New Jersey have seen things that are completely inexplicable. And that again is why we call them UFOs. Doesn't mean that a UFO is necessarily life on another planet or people visiting us from the where. Bless you. Yeah. Bless you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, this is what a lot of people are saying on our app chat. Um, I saw an alien ship at a baseball game. You ready for this? Yeah. It was big and the shape of a football floating around the stadium and it said a message. Good year. And he goes, "Well, I had a bad year, so those aliens were wrong." I don't know why I find that hysterical. Be Daniels. Um, also Caleb in Tennessee says, "I feel the same about aliens as I do ghosts. I can zoom into my apartment from outer space, but they can't find a ghost in a three- room colonial with seven scientists." It's really true, though. Like, we would just know more if if if these things really existed. By the technology we have, we definitely would know more. Yeah. I think Al hit the nail on the head last segment. I fully agree with him. We just aren't comfortable saying, "I don't know." Right. I don't know. Like, none of this stuff is real. Well, as a nation in general, we've always prided ourselves as being in the know about everything. You know, we're the greatest country in the world. We're the most scientifically evolved. We know everything and especially about space. You know, we take a lot of pride in knowing about space. So, nobody in this country, no scientist in this country wants to say, I don't know, there's stuff out there. I don't know what it is. And knowing the technology we have, it was it's so unusual to me that nobody could explain what those drones were back in December and January. Like, how do we not know what that is? Which also was blown out of proportion to a certain degree. Blown out of proportion, but you'll never convince me that that was just Well, there's always drones. How come I don't see them now? Yeah. I mean, but also, how frequently are you looking? That was such a phenomena that then you get it in your head. Everybody starts looking like I was driving with Ally and we saw something in the sky. It was probably a plane, but the drone was in our heads. So, we were like, "Oh, maybe that's a drone." But it was just a plane that was super high up. How often am I driving around staring in the sky to look at planes? There's not. Maybe. Maybe. But I still think that there was something. People were saying drones were were flying up to their back door. What are we talking about here? As big as a minivan. Like, you just you get caught up in it. You get like a little nervous and then everything. You just you get scared. Once again, I blame social media. Yeah. Well, 100%. So, now we can't I don't think we should take this call. I'd love to talk to Beverly, but it just looks like um she saw she thinks she saw a UFO when she was a kid, but we got to take a break. Beverly, thank you so much for calling. Um at noon, EJ and I have both have our anniversaries, wedding anniversaries coming up. So, we started thinking, let's ditch our spouses and just go away together. No, that's not what we thought. Actually, we thought, cuz that would be gross. Actually what we thought actually what we thought was like should we go away for a romantic weekend like each of us respectively with our spouses and where would you do that and Kyle I think that you probably have been somewhere that you can enlighten us to too for like a little romantic getaway we'll talk about that kids we want your ideas romantic NJ getaways coming up after this gold prices higher than 30 parks casino New Jersey chime time is 1210. It's the Judy and EJ program. I'm Judy Franco. EJ's with me looking stunning as always. Hi, Eric. EJ. Hi, Judy. Hi, Kyle. Kyle for Hello, everyone on the knobs, buttons, and occasionally the microphone, too. We love it when he jumps in. Um, our phone number is 1 800 2831015. You might not believe it, but this is our uh the time of year where we start planning our Valentine's Day getaways and our weekend romantic getaways. EJ and I do this because, you know, it's fall, officially fall, so you got to start looking at this stuff. Plus, my anniversary is November. His anniversary is October. Yes. And so, we need some ideas. We have like a lot of great spots in New Jersey, but I just want to tell you I will allow suggestions that are up to two, three hours from Jersey. Yeah. How about that? You can go over into Pennsylvania. Maybe maybe up into New York State a little bit. Yeah, maybe the city. Maybe in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean or even Delaware. I could do Connecticut from where I live in like two hours, no problem. So phone number is 1 8002831015. We need to know what is a great romantic getaway in New Jersey. I sp I will tell you where I've spent my anniversaries. Interestingly, EJ. Mhm. One year we went to the Sheridan Bucks County. Now Sheron Bucks County is on like a major roadway. You look across, all you see is traffic. across the way you see Big Bird because it's like right by it's over by the Oxford Valley Mall in Sesame Place, right? But it happened that Mark had some kind of business he was doing with somebody out there when he was in the video business and he's like well it wasn't even supposed to be it was around the time of our anniversary. So we'll like well let's just say a few days and we'll go out for dinner and we'll make it a weekend at the Sheridan in Bucks County. And you know what it became a romantic weekend. We made uh a reservation at a nice restaurant out there and it was freezing so everything was like we have to bundle up. We went to a restaurant with a fireplace though. We turned it romantic so anything could be romantic. Well, your kids were probably small at the time, right? And so it was just the two of you. Yeah. So getting away from them. Yeah. That was great. Exactly. Um, but I think the last uh, you know, like kind of chic, kind of beautiful one was at that place. See, now it's going to Oh, shoot. Now it's going to escape me. It's like a bed and breakfast in Pennsylvania. Yes. New Hope area. So beautiful. Yeah. In that Bucks County. I can't remember the name. I forget the name. I don't remember the name. But that that was a one of those places where, you know, I'm not a bed and breakfast person, right? But he is he likes old and you know charming and 19th century furnishings and all of this nonsense. Well, the problem with the bed and breakfast is the breakfast part of it and the and and you see the same people like all weekend and you feel like you have to talk to them and oh, let's stay in touch. It's been such a great weekend. Ew. But I but yeah, but the nice part about it is, you know, I just like modern stuff. That's the thing. It's not my style, but it does tend to be romantic. Now, we've spent many a romantic weekend in Atlantic City because that is everything, right? You know, you go to a hotel on the boardwalk and it's beautiful and you can stay in the ocean place or the wait, what do they call it? Not the ocean place, the ocean. Ocean Casino Resort. Yeah. And uh or next door at the Hard Rock. I mean, there those hotels are beautiful, modern, and great restaurants. You have Morton's there. You have car mines. There's so and the knife and fork which is legendary. I have not been there. That's all Dennis talks about is the knife and fork there. And I'm just like I don't get that. It's always on a list of most romantic restaurants and it's not a chain thing is once you're in Atlantic City, you have to drive there. So then now you have to take your car. What I love about being in AC is take your take the elevator down to 400 different restaurants. Take the elevator to go casino. take the elevator to sit by a pool, whatever it is. Yeah. Um, well, you go to the Tropicana, the quarter there is everything. There's so many things to do, so many great shops and restaurants. That place, AJ, you're reminding me I haven't been there in years. Time to go again. Is it still nice? Uh, I was there a couple years ago. It still seemed very, very nice. You feel like you're in Cuba. It's awesome. Yeah. I was going to say Kate May. Um, and I know you probably don't like the bed and breakfast you were saying, but uh, but there's other places like the Grand Hotel is down there and yeah, people always talk about and the um, what's the big one? The Oh, Congress Hall. Congress Hall. Yeah. You know, we've never stayed there, but we've had some there's the Blue Pig is a restaurant there. There's a lounge called the Brown Room. And, you know, you definitely feel like you're going back um like to Titanic era or whatever because it's 100 years old. So, it's cool in that respect. I their rooms look awesome because they have those really high windows. They probably have a great view of the Atlantic. I I even people who don't love the old-fashioned, you know, like me. Yes. People who don't appreciate the Victorian so much have have told me, "Yeah, but Congress Hall, you got to go anyway. It's so special." You know, it's been there for over 100 years. 1 8002831015. that doesn't um weekend away or just romantic dinner spots cuz this guy Mark from Union is talking about one of the most unromantic cities in the state but a romantic dinner spot there. Mark, talk to me. What is it? Number one, I just I feel like I'm a very simple person, I guess, with this, but in all honesty, my wife and I will take a ride to a place called Keyport Fishery. It's down in keyboard. Obviously, uh you go there. It's a very interesting thing cuz you order your food, they write your order on a paper bag, they fill your order, put the food in the bag, we go to the seaw wall, we bring two chairs, we put down a blanket, eat our food, you can fish and crab there. You we sit and watch the boats and uh wait till the sun goes down and just watch all of it. It's just just a perfect just simple evening of just relaxing. And my wife loves looking at the water and it's inspiring to her in many ways. So, it's so funny because if you would have told me that keyport would have come up into any sentence with romantic in it, I would be shocked. But that does sound like a sweet thing to do. What's it called? The Keyport Fishery. Keyport Fishery. It's been there 100 years, I think. It's absolutely amazing the food. I love that idea. Shrimp and scallops. You can't beat it. They they're they're breading them while you're w taking the order and getting ready to make your food. And I can tell you uh part of the romantic thing involves me and my wife because we look at each other even after 45 years and know we found the right person. So it's just a perfect fit. That's so beautiful. I love that story, Mark. Thanks for calling New Jersey 101.5. So many people in New Jersey feel that way and I'm always so happy to hear that. Um, also don't forget the countryside resort in New Jersey called Pendry Natar. That's a new one on me. Well, it's funny because Natar is Raritin backward, but I don't I don't know why they named it that. We're going to hear from people who talk about that place because I've been seeing it so much in social media. Um, I want to go there. 1 8002831015 is our phone number. Uh, what is the romantic weekend that you need to fill us in on? Cuz we both need a romantic weekend. Not together. Yeah, your phone calls coming up and Brian has a great idea. Love you, Bri. Hang on with us. 12:18. Here's New Jersey Fast Traff. Big boats and we cannot The Judy and EJ show here on New Jersey 101.5. Judy and Mark have an anniversary coming up in November. Me and Linda have one coming up in October. We're planning our romantic getaways. Uh, one year, Judy, my wife did this for me when I was going through my midlife crisis. She rented me a Mustang. This is before I bought one, but she rented it for me, had it ready to go and had made a weekend for us at the White Sands in Point Pleasant Beach, and it was like one of the best anniversaries. It was great, you know, that she was so thoughtful that way. And then, you know, said, "Yeah, why don't you get a Mustang?" I said, "All right, I'm getting a Mustang." But you know when somebody um puts so much thought into something, I don't care what it is, like the fact that they would plan something like that. She's great. She's a great planner. As you know, as great as she is is is just how poorly I am. I kind of wait till the last minute. Men are great at that. I'm sorry to say. I mean, no, I shouldn't say that. There are some men who enjoy that. They love it. My My son is the planner for every vacation. Yeah. Really? Um Wow. Yeah. With And his wife is like, "Oh my god, I didn't have to do one thing." Yeah, he enjoys it. But Mark, I think he's planned one thing. And it was great. Yeah. But that's not My daughter's great that way, but both me and my son were kind of similar. Uh, so you think it's guys that aren't What about you, Kyle? I'm not a planner. So like I if anybody's going to plan like a surprise romantic vacation, it's going to be Ally. Probably. I mean, yeah. I I don't think that way, you know? Right. I know. A lot of guys don't. Brian and Howell. He's going to tell me about a place I've never heard of, Mineral Springs. What is it, Bri? Hey, Judy and EJ and Kyle. Hey, Brian. What's going on today? How are you? Good. Good. Good. So, uh I I believe that's the name. Mineral Springs. It's up in um Vernon, the old Vernon Valley, you know, ski resort. Oh, Vernon Valley Great Gorge. Yeah. Ver Mineral Springs. It's a Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yes, I was there. You know where you know where you have to go. Wait a minute. Stop. That is um It's Sussex. Yeah. But what is the name of the town? Grand Okay. Okay. So, the big resort where I stayed is called Grand Cascades. Never heard of. Attached to it. Attached to it is Yeah. It was very high, very expensive. And then attached to it is Mineral Springs Resort which is also they say beautiful. I was not there but were you there Brian? I've been there for work. Okay. Cuz tell I want to know about this Mineral Springs cuz I went to Cascades in the days when I could afford to do something like that. I'd like to go to the less expensive one. Yeah. No, it's very nice. It's not cheap. It's not It's not You know, it's uh 300 bucks a night. 400 bucks a night. It's not cheap. Yeah. But there's no such thing as three 400 bucks a night anymore. I guarantee you. You know where good bargain? Uh the loop in on Route 9 in Islin. That's a good romantic spot. Mirror mirror ceilings like the nights in the night. Uh rent by the hour. Come on. Okay. It's pretty. You know what else, Judy and EJ? And EJ, you probably noticed because you're a South Jersey guy, right? My brother-in-law and sister-in-law are currently at the Galloway Golf Resort. Oh, yeah. and they've been going to Smithville. And you know, my sister-in-law vlogs, so she documents everything. And let me tell you, what a week at what a week they're having. What's it called? I think it's the Galloway Golf Resort. Oh my Oh, wait a minute. Did this used to be Hold on. It's not in uh Abseen. Yeah, in that area down there. South Jersey. All right. So, there's one place we went to once. It was a golf resort down there. It used to be a Marriott and then it turned into this and whatever. Okay. There's print on everything. It's like that old school golf shirt. The whole place looks like an old school golf shirt. Hey, is it the C view country club you're talking about? C View. Yes. Yeah. Okay. And unless they fixed it up, I don't know where they're at. Yeah. Unless they fixed it. There's a Marriott fairway villas right there at the Seville C view country. Have you ever golf there, Kyle? C View. No, it's not that place. That's not where they are. That's where my mom is. No, it's a it's I'm sure it's very nice if my sister-in-law and brother-in-law are there. It's Galloway. I know it's called Galloway. Look it up. All right. Um and they went to Smithville. Look, sounds like they might have fixed it up since I was there. Brian, thanks for calling New Jersey 101.5. It was beautiful. I mean, it was expensive and and supposedly luxurious, but not my style. Yeah, I'm looking at the C view country club. There's a Marriott Fairway Villas right there, and then next to it is the uh C view hotel, a Dolce by Window. Yes. So, I guess they fixed it up. Um, also Ken Mercer says, "Minerals Resort is part of Crystal Springs." Yes, I stayed at Grand Cascades. Crystal Springs has two resorts, Grand Cascades and Minerals. Grand Cascades is like the woo la and Minerals is very nice also. All right, let's go to Kathy who is in French time town and she's got an Airbnb she's inviting us to right now because she's getting a big plug so we're allowed to go there, right Kathy? Oh yeah. Yes, of course you are. Um, so a couple years ago we moved here. We bought this old bed and breakfast and it's got a main house and then a separate cottage and the main house we live in. So that's the private residence now and it's supposed to be haunted. Um anyway, we haven't seen anything yet, but uh we might. And then the separate cottage though is very charming. It has its own private patio. It has a fireplace, a jacuzzi tub, really pretty garden, and it does have antique furniture, but it's very clean and very neat. It's not cluttered. It's very tidy. And people love it. They say it's like a fairy tale or one um Yeah. People even say it's like a museum. We've had brides stay here. We've had photo shoots. Okay. Wait, what's the name of it? Really pretty. It's called River Witch Cottage in Frenchtown, New Jersey. And you can walk into town. You can walk into town and down the street there's a hotel that on Friday night has jazz. And it's just it's a great little town. Yeah, Frenchtown is so charming. I love French Town. Kathy, what is um who makes the breakfast? Um there it's not a bed and breakfast anymore. So I said I'm not getting up early to cook. So it's just an Airbnb. So but I do I garden and I put fresh flowers in the cottage from my garden and it's it's very very pretty. So people have really nice reviews. Do they rent the entire place or just they get a room? Just the cottage. It's the cottage is one open space. So it's really good for two people and it's pet friendly but it's very romantic. Yeah. People stayed here years ago on their honeymoon and came back for their 20th anniversary. Oh my god. Oh, we're so late. I got to take a break. Kathy, thank you. You will see me there one day. 12:31 now on Judy and EJ. Honey, this is it. Fall is the time for romantic getaways. We see the leaves changing. We go up toward the mountains. They've already changed. They're already almost at peak already. I've seen that. Like up toward our cabin up in the Poconos. So, a lot of people plan their getaways around this time of year. Judy and I do it because both our anniversaries are coming up this fall. Uh, what's your story for a romantic getaway or a suggestion for us at at 1 800283101.5 last year, Judy? We went to a pretty cool town called Milford, Pennsylvania. It's right on the Delaware River and we we knew about it because we went on a canoeing trip years ago and we thought, "This is a cool town. Let's check it out." So then I thought, so I did do some planning. I did plan last year. We went to Milford, stayed at a hotel on the main street. Right next door was the Republican headquarters. And this is like a few weeks before election day because our anniversary is October 22nd. There was a huge Donald Trump rally like right there and everybody's screaming and the horns are beeping and all that and you know, God bless those people for their enthusiasm, but it didn't feel very romantic inside the hotel room. No, I don't think so. That could take away a little bit from the romance. Um, but there are so many beautiful places in New Jersey and people are calling in mentioning different places that we may not have ever heard of. So, I started to talk to you guys about this. Well, first of all, I want to ask you um, what is the romantic getaway that you can suggest in New Jersey? 1 800 2831015. Somebody wrote I want to say because you said they're getting married there. Oh, Kennensis, PA. Yeah, the Magnolia Streamside Resort. She said, "I'm getting married there in 3 weeks. It is so beautiful. I'm going to look at at that, too." My wife used to work in Canada at a camp up there, and the camp happened to be owned by Christopher Knight's stepmom. I can't believe what you know what I was just going to ask. Christopher Knight's a former coworker, by the way. When you asked when you said your wife worked at a camp, I was going to say that's so funny cuz Chris Knight's stepmother owned a camp there. It was the same. Linda worked there before we both knew Chris. That is Oh my god, what a coincidence. Um, so Pendry Natar, it looks it's in Somerset County. When they say it's a countryside resort, every time I say I'm going to go away for the weekend, I look at this place. EJ, you got to look this thing up. I don't know why it's called Pendry Natar. It doesn't say anything on the website about why or what, but all I have to tell you is go on their website, look up, just look at this place. So, Pendry, P N D R I E. Oh, why? Oh, why? Pendry Natar, which is rare in backwards. It's in I know. I don't know why it's rar backwards. I don't. But the place is so stunning. There are 68 rooms. 21 of them are suites. And it just looks like it's that beautiful mixture between back in time but really new. You know what I mean? And the gardens and every view and there's a cooking school there and you know so cuz everything is like farm to table. I don't even have any idea how much it cost. You know I do love that you bring up an interesting point when it's an old place and they take it and they put all new stuff in it but the new stuff is made to look old. Exactly. They're my favorite places to stay. Me too. because it doesn't look like it smells. It doesn't It looks like it smells like back or mildew. Look at the spa though. I just want you to see this. Okay, look at this pool. They have like a lap pool indoors and the view is gorgeous. So, I'm trying to They keep saying Somerset County. That makes sense to me. Yeah, but what is the Why can't they just say the town? Oh, somebody's going to tell us. Anyway, 18002 Oh, Pac. Now I know why they don't tell us the town. cuz we would have no idea how to get there. And it sounds bad. Peep is one of those towns that has a twin town. Yeah, it's PeepC Gladstone. Okay. How do you know that? Cuz there was a big story about, I think it was like two years ago or maybe last year, there was Canadian geese that were there. People were freaking out about it that they needed to kill the geese, gas the geese, this and that. And there was a whole, you know, one organization that that's inhumane. You can't do that. And it was in Pepac Gladstone. We talked about it numerous times. You know, our friend, remember our late friend Steve Califer? He he uh I feel bad that we have a friend that died that I don't even Well, he was an advertiser on the station, you know, in the Flemington car dealerships and and he was the money behind that Soprano State movie that Bob Engel came up with and we went up there for a screening once at his house in that area. It's a beautiful area. Wow. I don't know the guy. How do you die? Well, I forget. That's so sad. Yeah. Um anyway, this apparently there are more Pendry hotels and resort. I don't want to sound like I'm doing a commercial for them. I don't know how they're not advertising here. Salespeople, get on that. Um, but it's gorgeous. Let's go to James. And that's my next romantic getaway if I can afford it. James is in Lawrence. Lawrence. Hi. You're right around the corner. What's up? My friends for the past couple years have been going to a town called Benazette, Pennsylvania. Um, DJ, you should know this. You know every Never heard of that town. It's about four and a half hour drive from about the Princeton area and um it's it's a like a big park that has elk in it and they go there every year to see the elk and it they have like a little new hope town with shops and restaurants and lots of fall colors and it's so popular every hotel motel gets sold out because everyone wants to go there and see the elk. Hm. Never ever heard of it, but I'm writing it down. I've never heard of it before my friend started going and then they started showing me this is why we go here and people just do nothing but drive around the park all day looking for elk. Okay. So, there's like a beautiful is there someplace to stay or you just have to sit there in your car and look at the elk? No, there there's hotels and motel. It's a it's a very popular thing to do. A lot of people do it. All the hotels and motel get sold out really quick in the fall. That's wild. I had no idea. But I mean, if that's your thing, looking at Elk, it never occurred to me to do that. But if there's a nice place to stay around there, then you can make it a romantic weekend. Again, I made a romantic weekend out of the Sheridan Bucks County. And so, I think you could probably make them anywhere unless it's one of those, you know, nights in 1 800 283 1015s. Call in. And James, thanks for calling New Jersey 101.5. And tell us what you think is the perfect romantic weekend in New Jersey cuz we need one. Everybody needs like a great go-to romantic spot. Your call is coming up next. Weather and traffic on the way on Judy and EJ. Enjoy even more before it's the new today. So my anniversary with my wife Linda is in October. Judy's and Marks is in November. Kyle, when's your anniversary? July 29th. So, are you do you have anything on your calendar that's romantic planned out? Well, considering it's about a year away. Uh, not right now. We went to Point Pleasant, saw a movie on the beach for our anniversary this year. Uh, but I don't have anything in mind for next year. But during the break, you mentioned a town in Pennsylvania. That's true. Yeah, Jim Thorp. Jim Thorp is a great area. Now, after refining Judy's tastes and what she said she does and doesn't like, I think Jim Thorp would be the worst place I know that Mark could take you. So steer clear of there. Okay. But it's very fun. I mean, there's good biking trails there. You can go whitewater rafting if you want. I mean, I just think it's beautiful. It's built into the side of a mountain and it's a really cool drive in when you see it. It is gorgeous. I just There's no place to stay that wouldn't make me nauseous. It's all old places. Our buddy Wayne lives there, so you could stay with Wayne. What I don't get is it's such a beautiful place. Why doesn't I'll stay with Wayne? That'll be romantic. He's right there in the middle of town. Why doesn't somebody build a beautiful resort there? That's an area of of PA and the Poconos that is like untouched. You can turn back the clock and you feel like you're in 19. Lehigh Gorge goes right through there. Uh it is built into a mountain. You feel like you're in Switzerland. There are some I just saw a a relatively new resort out there that's like a fivestar. Do you know what I'm talking about? I I Well, there's some that are that are built up there. There's like a Kalahari which is a water park type thing which I think is a resort too. There's areas and pockets that are built and that are new and that are nice and then you kind of have all the other towns that are built in 1970 and earlier and have never been changed. They look like that. You know, we stayed there a few years ago and we found an Airbnb there and again it's one of these older buildings that was gutted and all new stuff put in. So you might find that stunning that I would love. There's a grocery store up there that doesn't even have like the the gun to scan barcodes. They got I'm not joking. Like they have like they got to like type it into their computer. It's you know amazing. It's like time is stood still. Yeah. Not like a cash register. I love that Jim Thorp. But I also um there are a few other places in PA that people have told me about. So I guess I originally I was saying New Jersey but the Poconos has so many great places. How can you not go there? Also, the Catskills has gorgeous places. I think there's some brand new resorts there that are stunning. Yeah. I think if if it if it's within the sound of our voice, it's a great place to stay and we can talk about it. Yeah. And they can hear us on the Poconos. So, there you go. 100%. But we forgot Woodlock, which is also in the Poconos. That's stunning. Skytop Lodge is supposed to be beautiful. I've been to Sky Top. I think I was at Sky Top two years ago. That is a great place. It's very grand. We did a zipline and an obstacle course there a few years ago. Yeah. So, we're lucky. We're we're very close to some really picturesque areas and the Frenchtown lady with her uh river witch cottage. Expect us there soon. Not me and EJ. Me and my husband. All right. 12:55 coming up in the one o'clock hour. EJ, we got some great stuff to talk about. We certainly do. Judy, we'll tell you what it is later. Love you. We have some decisions to make. It's Judy and EJ rolling on right after this. Stay with us. You're asking how is your back? Bet Parks online casino and sports book app. New Jersey Chime time is 109. It's Judy and EJ. Yay. And uh we're having so much fun here. Me and my partner Eric Johnson. Kyle's here having the best time of his life. He's in a good mood today cuz the Phillies clinch the buy and they're going to the playoffs and they get a they get at least one playoff series off which is a good and bad thing because uh they might lose some momentum if they don't play for a week. Oh, we can't talk about sports. Sorry, Judy. No, me uh was I complaining? No. Was I complaining? You not complained, but a listener did complain that we talked about sports. Somebody on our app chat complained. But guess what? I like it because it's the one piece that was missing from the show. It's on and off in 30 seconds. Exactly. And I don't screw them. Anyway, um I think it's important. I do. I don't want to only appeal to non-sports people. Anyway, um we have something important to talk about, don't we? Well, we do. like how long have you lived without without creature comforts like your phone, electricity, water, heat, all those things? You know, it got me to thinking, what was the longest I've ever done without all of those things? And we actually chose to do it. We went to this camp up in northern Maine. It was so remote. There was no electricity. Uh there was no plumbing. There was no running water. We had to use an outhouse. We had to go to a hand pump to get the water. Um, and we just had to enjoy nature, canoeing, hiking. If I wanted to make a phone call, I literally had to paddle across the lake and go up a mountain and I'd get two bars of cell service. But can I just tell you something? Something about that is so claustrophobic to me. I would be afraid. I need a way out. Like, I don't even go on trips where I mean, I do, but I avoid trips that are on remote islands, right? You know, there's a my husband took me to IstAppa, Mexico, which is beautiful place, but the only way to get there is like on a ferry from Cancun. And I'm like, I'm sorry, we're too far away from everything. And he's like, "What do you mean? It's a 10 20 minute ferry, half an hour or whatever it was." And I was like, "I don't like that feeling of being so isolated that if I needed help or my kids needed help, I'm isolated." You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that weird? I mean, they're all grown. Like I don't know, but you know, I'm a person with anxiety. I'm not like normal people. Well, we've all become addicted to the technology and I've said this before that when I pick up this phone here and I have it in my pocket, it's the same as my dad going in to get his Salems back in the 70s. You know, he he was always reaching for it all the time. And if you didn't have it in your hand, if you weren't doing something with it, you weren't interacting with it, something's wrong. EJ, that is the most depressing thing in the world because you just said and it's the truth. We're just we're addicted. So, of course, there was a period of time where you had to do without your phone during well, some people had to do without their phones during Sandy, but what we did was if somebody's phone ran out before we got like um generators and stuff because the generators are even the generators were just for the fridge and freezer. We couldn't use them for charge in the car, so we didn't have to do that much time without 9 days without um electricity except for the fridge in the freezer. Yeah. Um and no heat, but we had a gas fireplace in my bedroom was which was awesome cuz everybody just slept in my bedroom. It still works. Yeah. Yeah. Um and then we had of course a gas stove. Yeah. So, we were able to light that so we could cook and we used it as a um what did they call that in the olden days that warms up the house. Yeah. Heat. But I mean a radiator, right? Okay. Right. Steam heat. So, we poured up we put boiling water on all the burners and in order to manipulate how much came out or didn't, we would put the lids, you know, vent it a little bit. Right. So, you had no power or anything for nine days when Sandy happened. Yeah. That was a big one. But just this past month, I had a problem with my phone. Oh my god. EJ, were you here when I dropped my phone down the elevator shaft? I remember. I do remember that story. Yeah. Watched the phone drop. Looked at it on the floor below me, working perfectly, face up, and I see all these texts coming in and everything. Can't get to it. Elevator. I was making I was late for a plane so there was no time to try to get it right. The landlord of the place I was staying at was kind enough to the next day work with the elevator company and the building to get it for me. Okay, you got it back. But here's the thing about that though about the phone. We're addicted to that. Sure. But at one point 200 years ago, there was no electricity. Uh maybe there wasn't gas at that point yet. Um what I mean so we get electricity and we we we've turned the light on. So one would say that we became addicted to electricity. We you know we be we came became addicted to gas in the car. We became addicted to all these cars and and the phone's just the latest thing. So one would say that we're addicted to electricity. Yeah. But you know what EJ you know it's different because you pick up that phone sometimes for absolutely no reason and just look at it. And so do you all the time? It's like that's why it's scary when you said it's not really unlike the Salem and and it's not like we're even making a ridiculous comparison because they said they designed it that way. They designed it for us to be freaking glued to like losers with their heroin. Right. Well, social media is that way because every time you get a like or a message or a notification that I've read that that feeds the dopamine in your brain which gives you like a feel-good sensation. Okay. So, I for this reason I was trying to wind down from social media but it's really hard because we have a public following. They like you know interact with me on social media. So, I haven't been on a long time but today somebody posted something and tagged me in it. Okay. a very very funny thing. So I wanted to repost it and tag her back. So now I'm back on my stories and people go, "Oh, you're back on social media. Where were you? What were you doing?" And then I feel bad cuz I feel like we have an audience. Yes. And it's like a very unique way for them to communicate with us, you know, that has nothing to do with radio that didn't exist before in the olden days of radio. So I love that. Well, this is behavior that you've done before. You you kind of go on and then you go off and then you go back on again. Yes. It's And when you go on, you're hot and heavy with it. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And then you're gone for weeks and then you're back. I think your Instagram followers, Judy, feel a bit ghosted. You're so right. But okay. All right, let's get the phone number. How long did you have to live without water, power, electric, phone, uh, hot water, and what did you do about it? And I think a lot of New Jersey can really relate again because of Hurricane Sandy. A lot of us learned how to deal with stuff that we never ever thought that we would have to deal with. 1 8002831015 is our phone number. I don't have a screen in front of me either, so let me just see if I can get that. Um, heat would be difficult. Heat would be very difficult to live without. And the one thing we have going for us, too, is we have a gas fireplace. So, that's really, really nice. And we have the gas uh ranges. Well, we have that growing up with the gas. I remember ice storms back in the day and the power being out for days. And if you're in a smaller, less populated neighborhood, you're generally the last person to get your util utilities restored. And when I was a little kid, I thought there was something kind of cool about it that the power wasn't on and everybody was stuck at home. I still do. I still do. Yeah. I love We used to get together with our neighbors. We were very, very close with our next door neighbors where I used to live, then the across the street neighbors too to a certain extent and so we would build a fire and our kids were young and they would come over and it was like a very close feeling. Well, we had across the street neighbors just like that as well. Well, they've retired and moved away since then, but this was the neighborhood that everybody wanted to know cuz he could help you out with any at home project. He would help us out with firewood, but when the storm, you know, he was I I maybe an early prepper. I don't know what you call it, but he was always prepared. He he had a big mountain of wood in the backyard and they had a a wood burning stove in their kitchen that they could cook on. That's amazing. How did they do that? Great neighbors. They had a lot of wood. When I first moved in, I called him the wood man, but then we became friends and whenever I needed firewood, he always had a connection. So, how did you ever have to what did you have to do without and how did you make it? 1 8002831015. Somebody just told me recently that they were redoing a bathroom in their house. So, they were out that bathroom and then because of a plumbing error, they lost the other bathroom, too. So, they were showering in the gym. The gym. Oh yeah, we did that when they were doing work on our house. We'd go to Planet Fitness and shower. Thank God for that $10 a month, you know. 1 8002831015 is our phone number. How long have you had to live without Creature Comforts? Um whether it was phone, uh heat, AC in the summer. Oh, we did that one summer a couple years ago. Thank you, Guaranteed Service. They saved my life. You had no air one summer? Yeah. Oh, man. Not the whole summer. No, no, no. We had it here once for a whole summer. No air. Oh, don't get me started. I remember it well. Okay, your call's coming up next. 119. Here's New Jersey annual Nicholas Houdanish. Let's go. Oh, well, the Psboro song. Judy, I was going to say to you that this um we have sort of a food triangle happening here at New Jersey 101.5. Do you know what a food triangle is? No, but I know that Kyle has a curiously strong mint in his mouth. I did give him that. Yeah, I didn't realize how tongue tied that was going to that was going to make me. Here's the triangle. I make eggplant farm for him. I give them to him last night. True. He and Ally are enjoying it. It's great. The very next day, Dennis shows up with pesto. So, I think there's some coincidence. I think No, I think there's a competitive uh dad stepdad thing going on here, and I I I'm trying to get past it, but the world's not letting me. Do you think, guys, that he knew about that? And he's starting to get a little, you know, a little competitive. I don't I mean, he must have had to have listened yesterday for him to know that though. Yeah, cuz I didn't I haven't talked to him until he called me this morning. He listened. Who would listen after they leave? You know what I mean? He barely listened. I worked. I listened after I left. You did? Well, that was different than I send you texts all the time. All those seven years I was gone. Sorry, I've got a curiously strong mitt in my mouth. And you know what? It's curiously strong. And I can tell you guys are like actually getting like thrown off kilter because of it. It really did screw me up and I I feel bad. I'll reset the topic. We're talking about the creature comforts that you've done without. Think back to Sandy when you didn't have a phone or electric or anything. You couldn't do your laundry. You had to wear smelly clothes that smell like the Goodwill store. Yes. Um we want to hear your stories of when you've done without all these things that we become addicted to like electricity and phones. 1800 283101.5. Ted is in Seville. This is an amazing story. I'm not going to say how old Ted is cuz he's up there, but tell us the story, Ted. Well, I was born in 1895. Electricity hadn't been invented yet. We did have gas and So, apparently Ted was born on a farm and didn't have electricity till he was 13. um because he's of that era and every once in a while, it's not that we don't it's not that we discourage people who are in their 90s from calling. No, it's okay. It's just that they don't always sound so good, so we don't let them. Let me try this. Let me try it this way. Hi Ted from Seville. You're on New Jersey 101.5. How are you Ted? Damn it. It didn't work. It didn't work. RIP. Move on. All right. 1-800 283101.5. Tell us about your creature comforts and what you've done without it. How long can you go without it? In this day and age, EJ 90 is like the new 70. It really is. I'm noticing more and more of that. You know what I mean? Like the $100 bill is the new 20. Oh god. Isn't that No, it's a new 50 though. It really does feel like a 50. Feels like a 20 to me. You go through a $100 bill so quick. You do, but it still hurts to let go of it. Yeah. unlike in other words like a 20 doesn't hurt to let go of anymore. It's a 20. So you got to compare the 100 to something that hurt. The 20 is the new one. The 100 is the new 20. Disagree. Really? 50 is something you don't even feel anymore. 100 I still feel. You feel that? Yeah. I'm sorry. Huh? Huh? You go through it so quick. When you go out to dinner, think about how much your your meals at least if you're going out with you and Mark, it's probably around 150 175. You go out with Where the heck are you going to eat? Oh, 150. Yeah. Jesus. Come on. No. EJ's very very You know, you go out to a nice restaurant. You're going to have a couple of martinis. You're going to have an appetizer. Oh, we don't. Okay, that's the difference. We don't drink. Oh, right. Okay. That's what's going to cost you. Yeah, it's true. Cuz Ally and I don't really either. And we're never pushing 150. Never. Never. But I do have to say this. We hate when we go out with people who drink because like the bill, you split the bill, right? When you go out with another couple or two more couples, right? Yeah. It used to be more complicated, but it's easier now. You could split the cards. They they didn't used to do that, but you could split cards now. Okay. But here's the thing. Our dinner would be 50 bucks, but they're drinking. So now we're spending 80 for their stupid drinks that we don't even participate in, you know. Anyway, um our our thoughts and prayers go out to Ted. I thought the same thing John from Warren John from Warren said. I know a little concerning there. We tried really really hard. We really did. I thought my enthusiasm would would like be like those things they put on you when you're in the hospital. Clear. All right. So Ted, if you're still alive, we'd love to hear from you. Um, and how long did you have to go without either heat, electricity, air, your phone? 1 800 2831015. Here's the thing we found out. You don't have to do without your phone because even that 48 hours I was without my phone, I use my iPad to text. It doesn't have phone capability on it. It doesn't have 5G or anything. It just works with Wi-Fi. Yeah. But at least I could text all my kids and be like, "Hey, I'll be in the car for the next hour. Don't try to contact me cuz all I have is my iPad. You know what I mean? I do. So anyway, your phone call's coming up next. 1 8002831015 right now. It's 1:30. Law firm knows that owing the IRS can got to be honest. Really hard to go without the phone. It's with you and with me for everything. Directions. What time am I going to get to work? Forget how am I going to be mad? What you'd rather? You'd rather forget money, underwear, keys to your house. You'd rather forget your lunch. I I can't think of a thing that would be worse to forget than your phone. And sometimes I force myself to do without it. I I don't know if I was on with you or Kyle, but one day we were out on an anniversary dinner and we happened to go like to the uh the Hamptons and we were at dinner and it was a nice romantic dinner and I took my phone out and looked at something during that dinner and that was not the thing to do, you know. So now sometimes I'll just leave it in my glove compartment when I go to dinner, but it's still in the back of my mind. She got mad at you. Well, it I it was an inopportune time when I took it out. I Mark also he gets so mad at me. Yeah, I shouldn't have brought it out, especially at a romantic dinner like that. But um to me, after this many years, like you know that I'm going to pull out the phone only if I need to. I'm not sitting and scrolling cuz I have nothing better to do, right? You know what I mean? Well, if you get an alert and you feel a vibration, you're going to look at it. But then again, I have too many alerts turned on to begin with. Yeah, you do. I have every alert. Nobody I have no notification. No. Like you don't know when you get an email. You know when you get a text or do you go back and Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Text. Yes, but no email, no Instagram, no notifications. What about AP News? If you want to know something going on that you need to talk about on the air, I have the weather alerts, too, for every town I've ever visited. EJ, you're insane. I am insane. There should be no notifications on your phone except for It's going to rain in 5 minutes in Jim Thorp. That is horrible. No, you're addicted. Yeah, that's terrible. Might as well face it. I'm addicted. That's right. To phone, right? Mike in Bernard's Township had to go without his phone for two weeks. Was it Mike? No. No. I was talking about electricity for Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're right. I was putting my thing on you. Oh, the things that like that I was saying of the things that I that it's tough to go without. Yeah. During Sandy and think about it, who cares if I have my cell phone if I can't charge it and Well, well, we used to charge it dur during Sandy. recharged it in the car in the driveway, right? But it was ridiculous because small gasoline generator, but when it ran out of gas, I couldn't go to the gas stations cuz they didn't have electric for the pumps to pump the gas from the ground into the cars and tanks. I forgot. You had to go to like Yeah. You had to go to like And then, you know, there was a line like people were getting, you know, it was it was tense. People were It was like a movie, right? It was post-apocalyptic. Yeah, it was. And I know EJ used to be a cop. Like the cops were, you could say, see, they were on edge because they were like, "Oh man, is there going to be like a riot?" So, I ended up driving to Pennsylvania to get, you know, multiple five gallon tanks full um of gasoline, then truck them back to New Jersey. I have to without electricity. Mike, you you reminded me about the gas stations. I completely forgot. I also remember before Sandy for some reason Mark's like uh we had all these warnings and he's like let's fill up our cause and I'm like it's not going to rain it's not going to be anything big deal and but he did it and I remember thinking I'm so glad cuz I wasn't worrying about filling up and I wasn't worrying about char using the gas to charge my phone like that was awesome but I we did nine days without you did two weeks without I didn't realize there were 10 day it was 11 days. 11 days. That's insane. Now, do you remember cuz I remember distinctly the moment mine came back on. Mike, what? Tell me your story. All right. So, the story was, you know, the Calvary came from like Ohio and Penn State, these line of trucks, and I remember it was 10:00 at night, and I offer I said, "I got a gasoline jer. Do you want me to put a pot of coffee for you guys?" And they looked exhausted. And they're like, "Absolutely." And of course, typical, they go, "Uh, you know why you guys haven't had power for two weeks?" And I'm like, "Why is that?" They're like, "Because your infrastructure is like from 1960, right? And they don't make the parts." They they all said that is the sole reason why New Jersey lost its power for that long. None of the parts exist. Our infrastructure is so outdated. So anyway, I fired up a pot of coffee for those guys. They were, you know, it was great. And then the power went back on. It was like, you know, the best Christmas present ever kind of. remember that moment. Hey Mike, you know what's interesting? I don't think I mean I've heard so many people since Sandy, government officials, um the governors, whoever was here after that saying, "Well, that's why we got to beef up the infrastructure and nobody's ever done anything about it. We still have the same rotten old." All they care about are the bridges and that inconvenience. The bridges are fine. I want to be able to get from here to there, but they're not taking care of the the infrastructure of the power grid. That's so true. Mike, thank you very much for calling. I appreciate it. Uh let's go to John and Mount Laurel. No hot shower for a week. It was winter, right, John? Oh, yeah. Not only winter, northeast Pennsylvania winter. Oh. Oh, wow. But you know what? At least you weren't sweating as much, so you didn't stink. Oh, no. That's Hey, I got clean regardless. Trust me. What' you do? Uh, it was tedious, but I kind of got like one of those big uh Home Depot buckets, and what I did was I would uh fill water in a little Tupperware, heat it up in my microwave, and when I had a full bucket, I take it upstairs, sit in the shower with this bucket, and pour cups of water on me and, you know, soap up. Real uh real old school cave man stuff. Oh my god. But that's such a Now, what happened that you had no hot shower? Uh there was just a gas main break. Oh my god. And how long did you do? A week. You did that for a week. Yeah. Yeah. About like five, six, seven days, something like that. You know, we we did some stuff at uh some relatives houses up there, but you can't do that every day. You start to feel like a mood. So, did you like I'm going to make it work regardless. John, did you ever try just like saying screw it, I'm going to take a cold shower? If it was the summer, I think I could have handled it. I just think because we we our heat was gas, too. So, the house was freezing, too. We had a we had electric heaters everywhere. So, it's like even if I wanted to take a cold shower, I'd probably freeze in the house. Oh my god, you poor thing. That's amazing that you got through that, John. And now everybody knows what to do. You've taught us all what to do if we don't have a shower. Exactly. Big bucket, microwave. I never would have thought of it. John, thank you so much for calling New Jersey 101.5. You also could just like put a bunch of pots on the stove if you have a gas stove or even electric and just get a bunch of just run some cold water and mix it in there. There is something to this infrastructure thing because I do notice more short-lived power failures. It seems like it's happening more often. It's just a little windy or a little rainy a and the power goes out and it seems like it's more frequent when you when these power failures are happening. Um, I'm not sure because I have a different experience in this house than I did in my old house. This house has older plumbing and systems and stuff. Um, but yeah, that we know that our infrastructure is old. That's like a fact. Um, just really really quickly, EJ, I want to read you this from one of our app chatters who writes pretty commonly. I'm so glad I stuck it out. After the first week with EJ, I was freaking out thinking, what am I going to listen to now? So glad I gave it a chance. It has come together beautifully. That's nice. It's really nice to hear that today. I agree. I agree. Uh your call is coming up next. 144 on Judy and EJ. We'll be right back. When it comes to It's the new the Judy and EJ show. Thank you, Kyle Forsini. 153 at New Jersey 101.5 with another chance to win $1,000. It happens at 20 after the hour with Deinsky and more. Listen for that cash code, the $1,000 at work payday here on New Jersey 101.5. Yeah, we are asking um very very important question. How long have you ever gone without creature comforts like hot water, phone, um electricity? And a lot of us had to really really had to experience that over um Sandy where we learned how to do things like they did in the olden days. But do you guys ever watch Naked and Afraid? I have not. Have not. Sorry. Naked. How do you not watch it? It's like the best show on TV. Naked and Afraid to me is the best example of human resourcefulness and resiliency I've ever seen. It is impossible to you. Neither one of us could ever survive in that atmosphere. It's They literally drop you off on an deserted island and you're somewhat naked. You're completely naked. Oh, not somewhat. All right. And they I mean that's nothing. That's just like the gimmick. You have to figure out where to get your clothes. Like actually some people do come up with like clo but there's no clothes. Everybody's tiled out and blurry. Wow. Okay. I think they just do that to add to the right discomfort of the whole thing. But that's the least of their problem. Food would be number one. Shelter. Food of course. Shelter. And there's all kinds of wild animals and critters. And they literally have to choose between like the scary huge predators like rhinos that could just like run them over and the small animals like wthogs and wild turkeys that they can actually eat. Um poisonous snakes versus the regular snakes. Now granted they're out there with producers. There's a producer tent. It's not like they're really really alone, but you're not supposed to think about that as a viewer. You don't think about that. And even with that, even though you know there are producers out there, it is amazing what these people do, how they live, what they what they will endure just to get through this challenge. Like the first day it'll drop to like 60° and they're naked and sleeping in the shelter, freezing, shivering, huddling together just for um warmth even though they stink, right? And it just I think it's a wonderful example of you know what you got to do if you've got to do it. And they're still making new episodes. They make new episodes all the time. It's a very very popular show. What is the end result? You get like a million dollars if you win or something. You know what? I don't even know if you get money at the end. Let me tell you something. Most of these people are doing it because they are addicted to the outdoors. They love nature. They love survival. and they love to set themselves a goal and then reach it. And you could see I'll put it on my watch list, Judy. Um, please do. But you know what? It debuted last night. I haven't seen it yet. Golden Bachelor just started last night. Oh, I'll watch that. So, I'll watch that and Naked and Afraid. I didn't know. Okay, awesome. Thank you so much for reminding me, EJ. Plus, he gave me a new show called Black Rabbit. Black Rabbit. Yeah. Drew Law and uh Jason B. Great to be back, guys. I love you both. Thank you so much for having me. Daminsky and more are coming up next. We'll see you tomorrow. [Music]
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