New Jersey's regional pride and a 1980 secession bid saga
The vibrant tapestry of New Jersey is often seen through the lens of its regional identities, which tend to spark debates about the cultural and societal nuances spread across North, Central, and South Jersey. Each region has its distinct character, accent, and even sports allegiance, creating a sense of pride among its residents.
The Attempt to Secede
A pivotal moment in the history of New Jersey's regional identity occurred in 1980 when there was a serious push for South Jersey to secede from the state. In a bold attempt, voters in seven of the eight counties—Cape May, Atlantic, Cumberland, Salem, Gloucester, Camden, and Burlington—voted in favor of the secession. The only holdout was Ocean County, which largely identifies more with North Jersey due to its demographic and cultural ties. The proposed independent state would have been called South Jersey, but the effort ultimately fizzled in the state legislature, primarily due to economic concerns and the desire of North Jersey officials to retain their tax base. The dividing line between the regions not only reflects political sentiment but also the contrasting lifestyles experienced by their residents.
Regional Differences
Sports allegiance typifies these regional divisions: North Jersey fans predominantly root for teams like the New York Giants, while South Jersey folks often side with the Philadelphia Eagles. The geographical and cultural distinctions are underscored by personal anecdotes and stories from local callers. Many South Jersey residents express feelings of being ignored by Trenton, feeling that their concerns related to things like school funding and road repairs often go unaddressed.
Cultural staples also differentiate the two regions. South Jersey boasts farms, a strong connection to the beach, and a more laid-back attitude, while North Jersey is characterized by its urban hustle, energy, and the proximity to metropolitan influences. This cultural dichotomy creates an inherent tension between the two regions, where even accents vary noticeably, with South Jersey residents often having a drawl that contrasts with the more pronounced Northern dialect.
The Central Jersey Conundrum
Adding complexity to this discussion is the question of Central Jersey. While some claim it as a distinct region of its own, often associated with areas south of the Raritan River, many argue that Central Jersey simply straddles the cultural lines of the North and South, often sharing traits from both. This ambiguity breeds debates among those who identify themselves as Central Jerseyans, with many arguing about where their loyalties lie—whether they lean more toward New York or Philadelphia.
Whether you're from North, Central, or South Jersey, everyone has a perspective on their home region that contributes to the larger conversation. These identities are woven together in a state renowned for its diversity, making New Jersey a fascinating subject for exploration and discussion. As Philadelphians may joke, at least they don't have to worry about the weather as much as we do, but New Jerseyans take that jibe with pride, recognizing the unique blend of history and culture that defines their lives in the Garden State.
Transcript
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[Music] New Jersey chime time is 7:07. I'm Dennis Mallaloy in with Kyle. Are we calling you Clark these days? No, no, forcini. Oh, good. Yeah, real names. Real names. Real names out. Uh, so some of you may remember I used to do the midday show with somebody named Trudy. What was her name? Uh, something to that effect. So anyway, I'm back filling in for Trev, who's got a day off, and Kyle is co-hosting with me. And Kyle have and I have this really stupid thing. When we text each other, we never call each other by our real first name. No, this is Delbbert, ladies and gentlemen. You're listening to him for the first time. And that's Ricardo. Um, so anyway, uh, I'm here and, uh, I I have a problem that I I'm hoping to get some advice on. Let's hear it. What do we got? So, end of August, my daughter and I took a ride to um St. Michael's, Maryland. Beautiful place. It's uh off of the Chesapeake. It's like across from Annapolis. You ever been to Annapolis? I don't think I've ever been to Maryland. Yeah, Maryland is nice. It's a weird state. It is a weird state. So is Delaware. And both of these states are trying to f me now. That's why I'm um I I need some advice. So, we went to St. Michael's, Maryland, across from Minneapolis. Cute little town, ate on the water, took a boat ride, rented ebikes, and went through town. Ebikes, that's a hot topic right now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this isn't I know this isn't a one-horse town where it was bike trails and there Okay. So, we had a great time and then we drive home, you know, and I I made it there in record time. made it home in record time cuz I like to go fast light foot a little bit. So I was like, "Wow, this is great." I I thought the Delaware troopers would be all over the place. I thought Maryland they must be asleep today. Open the mailbox. And who is it from? Delaware Department of Transportation Electronic Speed Safety Program. Doesn't sound good. They got a picture of my license plate and my car and was saying, "Hey, Mr. Mallaloy or whoever owns this vehicle. They have my name." Yeah, they did send it to my name. Yes. Um, here's my car. There's the license plate. 67 miles an hour. It's not that bad. In a 55 work zone speed limit. Now, I'm very respectful of work zones, especially here in New Jersey. You see the cones, you see a cop. At every work zone, you have to have a cop. It's a law in New Jersey. Passed about eight years ago. Okay. So, I pull over. I'm very respectful. This There might have been a sign that said work zone and maybe a cone or two. But look at this picture. Grab that. Do you see any work zone? Does that look like a freaking work zone to you? No, not at all, actually. Right. There's no workers. There's no police car. There's no cones. Look, actually looks like you're the only car on the road. Well, yeah, it was cuz going a lot faster than most of the other cars. No, 67's not bad. Not at all. That's why I thought you were going to say you were going 95 or something. 67. It's kind of a break. So, look look at the rest of the the the summons there. Do you see how much they want from me? I do. They am I allowed to say it on the air? Sure. They want $121 from you. Now, this is a scam. This is a scam because there was no work going on. I'll ask my daughter. I haven't told her about this yet. Um, we didn't see any work. There was no construct. We flew right through. There might have been signs that said work zone, but I think they put that up so they can double dip you. Of course. Yeah. And there's no So, and I'm glad that like if the cops are around, I would have slowed down. And I I get it that they don't want the cops chasing people and having to put them in danger. I'm all about that. But this is, I think, a private company. So, what I need help with is do I pay these mother emperors or do I just deposit it in the circular file? Well, you said you got two, right? There wasn't just one. There's there's another one over here. I mean, you got you got double dipped legitimately here and got you just once. This is from the Maryland safety zones. Went back for seconds over here. Safety zones of Maryland. Citation work zone speed thing. Okay. Now, here we clearly see cones on the grass. Okay. So, it looks like they're not in use cuz they're on the grass. They're just Let me see this. There's There's nobody around. I feel like I'm handing the exhibit A to the uh I'm the judge over here. I'm I'm going to make the determination right now. Your honor, take a look at these documents. Man, they really got a good camera to get your license plate that up close and everything. There was no es no escaping this. Well, somebody's brother-in-law owns the, you know, company that does this and they invest, you know, good money in good equipment. Now, this one I would say is more like a work zone than the other cuz you do see the cones. They're on they're off the shoulder, so it doesn't look like the work zone is in use, but at least there's cones. There's There's cones. How much do I owe them? Uh, $120. A dollar less than Delaware. Delaware needs that extra dollar for Biden's retirement fund. for Biden's ice cream. And how long ago was this before you got the ticket? When were you down there again? Is this three weeks ago? Yeah, August 28th. Cuz the goodie two shoes in me is like, Dennis, you should probably pay the ticket. I mean, I don't want to have him come after you. But also, you should try and fight this cuz especially the first one where it clearly looks like there is no cones in sight. There is no work zone. And even though you you wouldn't have to go back to Maryland, I'm sure you could do it by mail to submit your your stance on all this. Payment of the penalty amount for the violation will not result in points and cannot be used to increase your insurance rates. Warning: failure to pay the penalty shown or to contest liability described in the next paragraph is an admission of liability and may result in the refusal or suspension of the motor vehicle registration. H don't feel like having to go through all that now, do you? No, you must pay or contest this citation by the due date. So, how do I contest it? I'm sure it says it somewhere on there. We can look in the break if you want that so that way we can figure it out. There's also writing on the back, just so you know. Yeah. So, Ryan Bower is guy who signed this uh certificate. I am duly authorized law enforcement officer employed by or under contract with the Maryland State Police. Based on inspection of the recorded images shown above, the motor vehicle was operated in violation of title 21, subtitle 8 of the transportation article, as evidenced by the above images sworn affidav. So, I mean, I have the money, but I don't $240 could for a nice little afternoon in in Maryland versus Yeah. having to drive all the way back down there to try to fight it potentially. I I there's got to be a way you could do it by mail, I would think. So you don't have to go all the way down there. So when we had the speed c the red light cameras came that was a private company and that's why was it I forget which uh legislator who really fought to uh Declan Ocant to get rid of them and good good on him. He did a great job down in Delaware in Maryland. What what do they have going on down there? There's nothing going on down there. So somebody's brother-in-law got the contract. So, I don't see what I'm what I'm getting at is I don't think this is the Maryland State Police or it's it's it's a private company contracted by them and then they you know they scare you into sending them the money. Has anyone gotten one of these out of state? And what is the per what are the perils of not paying this or fighting it? Should we take some calls? Let's take some calls. Dave is calling from Woodbridge. Hi Dave. What's up? I see you're back on at night. Very good. Yeah. Whenever they need me, I'm here. Sounds good. So, listen. I'm from New Jersey, born and raised, but I lived in Maryland 16 years. Looks like I'm moving back in two weeks. I can explain the whole thing to you. So, let me start. 60 67 is not really that fast, but in a 55 zone, it's 10 miles over. That's why they gave you the ticket. Now, even if it's not a work z even if it's not even if it's Sunday and there's no workers out there, you're still in a work zone. They have LED signs that tell you you're in a work zone. This is the speed limit. But, you know, people from New Jersey are hardheaded. Tell me what to do. What I do, okay, when they issue the ticket and if you don't pay the ticket and go back to Maryland and you get stopped, goodbye. You're going to jail. So I suggest How much did you say it was, Dennis? $121. $120 for Maryland and 120 for Delaware. You got a ticket in Delaware, too? Oh, yeah. They double dipped them, Dave. Yeah. Well, it's not the same state, so that's two different states. Yeah, I know. That's two different tickets. Slow down after you got the first ticket. I didn't get a Whoa. Whoa. I This was a month ago. This came in the mail today. But you said one was from Delaware and one was from Maryland. Correct. He didn't learn his lesson, Dave. He kept on going. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I I had no idea I was in violation until in either state until I got both notifications today. Well, I'm telling you, Dennis, I lived in Silver I lived in Montgomery County 16 years. And in Maryland, they they before you get to the work zone, they have a flashing LED on both sides of the road. The speed limit in the work zone is 60. If you go if you were doing 10 over 12 over that they mailed Did they mail it to you or did you get stopped by a cop? Oh no, they mailed it to me. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, they'll mail it to you. And I would don't even don't even if you want to just, you know, you got plenty of time. Want just head back to Maryland, get some crabs, and go to court. But if they got you on, you're not going to win. Trust me, you're not going to win. All right. All right. Thank you very much, Dave. Appreciate the call to New Jersey 101.5. Do we have time for Gary? Let's go to him. Gary's in cold snack. Hello, Gary. Dennis, how you doing? Back from retirement now, huh? Not really. I was bored tonight. The Phillies aren't playing till the weekend. I figured why not? Big games Saturday here, guys. Yeah. Well, anyway, so listen, in the state of New Jersey, if you get pulled over on Route 18, right, it's a state highway, so they double up the fine. So, you're going to get ticket from the state, you're going to get ticket from the township, let's say Colts neck. What you got to really want to do honestly is not only do you want to pay the tickets, but if you have to go to court, you just want to make sure you're not getting points on your license because they'll double up your points there. Yeah. So, this is Maryland and Delaware. And Maryland says no points, no insurance increase, just we want our money. It's just a racket. Like I said, there was no construction happening. As the previous caller said, there might have been a flashing light that said construction zone, but there was nobody out there. So, I I don't plan on going to Delaware or Last time I was in Delaware or Maryland was like 10 years ago. I don't know when I'm planning to go back. So, do I say f them or do I pay it? Well, I would I don't know. For me, like if I ever got a ticket, I I always go to the court, talk to the pro I'm guilty, you know, that's here. That's here. I don't know how these uh you know, but Delaware might be beat. They might get patrolled by Maryland because if you're pretty close to Delaware sometimes these towns, you know, they get patrolled because they don't have enough police on that force. Got so got to be Yeah. Just double check that because, you know, I hate to see you get tickets and Yeah. It's one thing paying it, but this the points, they don't know if they're going to carry over to Jersey. That's the only thing you got. All right, Gary. Well, thank you. Well, this says no points and no insurance thing. I got a really good lawyer. His name is Chris Marone. out of Cherry Hill. I got stopped in Mount Laurel one time for drifting through a stop sign. He's like, "Yeah, your brakes, you needed work on your brakes. Go to your mechanic. Tell them to look at your brakes." So, I went and I, you know, got that mechanic looked at my brakes. So, he went and pleaded just your honor. He did brakes. Did he get you off? Yeah. Oh, man. This guy's awesome. The guy's great. Chris Marone. Got to hit him up about this. If you if you have a traffic problem in New Jersey or anything, Chris is good at everything. Anyway, uh out of state, I get a ticket with a camera. Nobody even pulled me over. Two of them, one in Delaware, one in Maryland. Uh what do I do? 18002 and has this happened to you? 1800 283101.5 720. Time for New Jersey fast. Hey, it's 7:24. It's um what is this? He called it the Steve Trevol show. Yeah. Um Steve's not here. So they asked me to come in and I said I I don't I don't want to do this crap anymore. So I no I said I'd love to. Uh and Kyle was here with me. I'm Dennis Malloy. That's Kyle. And um we're talking about tickets out of state and we used to have a red light camera situation here in New Jersey and we got rid of it a few years ago. I remember I got one of them on Route 70 in Cherry Hill. Cherry uh 70 in Springdale Road. Um and you couldn't get out of it. You just had to pay it. And now I got a speeding ticket. I never heard of a speeding ticket uh with a camera. Uh but they they're pretty sophisticated down there in Delaware and Maryland. You know how long ago it was that New Jersey got rid of those? cuz I don't think I ever had to deal with that when driving or if I did I was never guessed about it eight years ago cuz I I was doing some research prior to the show and the states that still or the states that don't have them now are Maine, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Jersey, South Carolina, Texas, West Virginia, and Wisconsin. So not as many states as you'd think. A lot of them still have them and it is again a testament to Declan Ocan to get rid of it in a state like New Jersey. all those other states, you know, they call progressive states or big, you know, government states like New Jersey is, they're like, "No, we're not getting rid of this. My brother-in-law needs that contract." Um, but Declan was able to get rid of it. Thank God. So, but here I got two speeding tickets um same day driving down to Maryland. One in Delaware, one in Maryland. Both about $120 each. Uh construction work zone 67 miles an hour in 55 zone. So, I'm not going that fast. And there was no workers out constructing. Well, when there's a construction zone though, don't they usually have the speed limits way lower than 55 though? Wouldn't doesn't it say like construction zone speed limit is now 35 or 40? That's why I think this is a scam. Yeah, I kind of agree with you. If it's 55 and it could that doesn't sound right to me. Yeah. Well, that's still whizzing by. But there was nobody out there working. They're yanking your chain a little bit here. Well, they're they're getting out of state people mostly, I would assume. Maybe they're getting some Marylanders and and Delawarians, but you know, most people open up and go, "Oh my god, 120. I better pay." Well, exactly. They're going right for the fear tactic. If this happened to me, $120, I don't want to get my license suspended. Here you go. So, anyway, so I'm waiting for that one call that said, "Dad, don't pay." Well, so Lauren in uh in Bedminister, she wrote in to say she got a ticket in New York, did nothing to it, and they never followed up. Not the state that you got the ticket from, but and I don't know when I'm going to be going back south again, so we'll see. Ross is calling from Philly. Hey, Ross. Hey. Hey. I just wanted to let you know like I got tickets when I was a kid. I'm 60 now. I got tickets 39 years ago in Rhode Island. One was for I don't know like the misd plate and the other one was for expired inspection. New Jersey is now participating in some type of program. They call it the problem driver pointer system. Those tickets I guess I never paid. I moved to New Jersey 35 years ago, whatever. Well, when I went to renew my license just recently, can't do it until you pay these tickets. And how much were they? They were like 12 and $15. Wow. And so you you paid him on the spot and you got I paid him and and you know I had to do everything through the over the internet and track them down, talk to different judges and this that and the other thing. Finally got a day getting care of it. Took about a week and then they go, "Oh, we see you straight. That's your problem. We'll renew your driver's license." Now, what was the program called again? Problem driver. What? Problem driver pointer system. I don't know if it applies with the um you know the automated tickets that you you got. Yeah. But I'm just telling you from my own experience, it wasn't fun. Yeah. All right. Very good. Thank you very much, Ross, for the call. Uh, real quick, Dennis Ryan in Lawrenville writes in and he calls these extortion. Oh, yeah. He said he got one of these from Maryland about two years ago and threw it out. So far, nothing has happened, but I also haven't been back to Maryland. So, that's the thing. Just don't go back. What do you need to go to Maryland for? I say if I'm going to Virginia or North Carol, my brother lives in North Carolina. I have to go through West Virginia and I have to go around Delaware and Maryland. You're retired. That's a little extra time on the roads. No, no skin off your back. Dave is calling from Brick. Hello, Dave. Hey, how's it going? Good. Yeah, Delaware. Delaware and and Virginia. They they got them in the in the light fixtures hanging on the above the highway. And you always get that little sign that says uh um tracked by camera. Yeah. And you you speed by. But I see it all the time because they're always doing construction where you were going through. Yeah. And there's never nobody on the road. It's always beat up. And the reason why they're that they're they're hitting you even though there's nobody on the road. Their attitude is, well, the road is beat up and you can get into an accident, so you got to slow down until the road is fixed. I I had was I do remember seeing an occasional cone or sign but there was nothing that said oh I better slow down here and I and you know I normally do 90 on the highway so I'm doing 67 so I I apparently you know was somewhat cautious. All right. Thank you very much Dave for the call. I appreciate it. Um is his name Dave? His name was Dave. Yeah. Um I think I'm tripping off Russ. No Russ was prior. That was Dave. Here's the thing. They're letting people out, you know, with 30 felonies who end up stabbing a Ukrainian girl on a train for no reason. And you're getting me for $120 for driving through your dumbass state like getting a poor old retiree. Yeah. I All I do is drive through your dumbass state, Maryland and Delaware and you want focus on the people who are stabbing people in the neck, please. You know, he said that they have them in whatever the lights that hang down that didn't the picture that's of your car look like it's from an upwards angle, though. Like it's it looks like the camera is almost on the ground the way it's getting your car. I don't know where the heck they had it at, but it doesn't look like you know this one looks like it's not high up. The one in Maryland it looks like it's on the ground. Yeah, it looks like they just got a secret little camera in in the grass right off the road. Yeah, same with Right. Right. There's that guy hiding in the grassy null. Somebody might be out doing photography and just got you at the right time. Son of a. Anyway, uh, have you gotten an out of state ticket with an electronic speed monitoring device? And what do you do? 1800 2831015. It's 731. [Music] So, I took a nice ride to St. Michaels, Maryland. I would highly recommend it for a day trip. Only about 2 hours from central South Jersey. Um, it was nice. Cute little town, quaint, great seafood, water, nice. Um, problem is I got two tickets in the mail today from a month ago, one from Delaware, one from Maryland, saying you're speeding through a work zone, 67 mph and 55. Uh, it's a scam because there were no workers out there. There's no construction. Couple of cones at one spot, the other spot, Kyle even saw the pictures. There's nothing there. Literally, you would not have known that it was a work zone. Yeah, especially that first picture that you showed me. Just looks like you're driving on the middle of a highway, right? Second one got some Conage potential for a work zone maybe, but I mean come on. They were off on the shoulder on the grass even. Exactly. Anyways, this happened to you've gotten a ticket out of state. What do you do? Um on the app chat, Greg says, "Uh, hey Dennis, welcome back. Same thing happened to me as happened to Russ. I tried to renew my license and they wouldn't allow me to renew it till I cleared up an accident that I was involved in in Hempstead, New York, I guess." Uh Mike, hold on. Hold on. Get this cuz his message is expanded here. I'm just reading it. He had to get cleared out from an accident from 36 years ago. Okay. In Hemstead, New York. Oh my god. Now, Mike, when I said, "Well, if I do go to North Carolina, I'll just avoid Maryland and Delaware." And Mike says, "Take Interstate 81 in Maryland. It's only 10 miles." And then I'm out of it. So, in that 10 miles, I'm out of the state. All right. So, has this happened to you? What do you do if I just throw them away? I just have to avoid those two states. I think I don't think anything's going to they're not going to come after me here. $240 combined. David Cherry Hill. Hello, David. Hey, guys. How you doing? Good. You got a couple of choices. Number one, the easiest way, pay the extortion, right? Uh which is unconstitutional taxation without representation, all that good stuff. Um, uh, if you don't pay them, like the previous caller said, you could potentially not be able to renew your driver's license to New Jersey if they reciprocate with Del and and Maryland. And I think we do, but I'm not 100% on that. The other option you have is, Joe, get yourself a written estimate for work done to your car, including speedometer calibration. Then you go four or five days later, get a receipt for said work, take that to court, and you will be through speeding violations. But it's a lot of aggravation. I I will not get a speeding violation. You're saying they'll let me go? More than likely. I've done it a few times. Uh it's a little little gray area, but they'll most likely drop the speeding charge since it wasn't 30 or 40 mph over. Even though I'm retired. Yeah. Even though I'm retired now, I do have some time. I don't want to go to some pod dunk town in Maryland or Delaware and play around. But that is you. If I want to avoid the 240, it's it's a it's a thing. All right, David. Thank you. Appreciate the advice. Alyssa's calling from um Freehold. Hi, Alyssa. Hi. How you doing? Good. So, so I was calling just to let you know that basically those out ofstate tickets will transfer over to New Jersey as a two point as two points. Well, see, and the one from Maryland, Elisa, it says this, these don't carry any points and it won't affect your insurance. Yeah, I know it says that, but that's not true. Oh, okay. You know, you know, any out of state ticket Well, because if you have a license in New Jersey Yeah. Any out of state ticket any any out of state ticket will transfer over to New Jersey as two points. Wow. If if I don't if I don't pay the fine. Um if you don't pay the fines because we most states participate in a interstate program that they all report to each other to make sure that everybody pays tickets in different states. Um even if it's an electronic there was no officer there sign. even if it's electronic ticket. I've seen people get tickets from 1980 that they can't renew their license right now for. Wow. So, basically, you either have to pay them or contest them. You can contest them and they can pull up, you know, calibration records or whatever, but just know that if you contest them, you're probably going to have to go back there to go to court. Sure. All right. Thank you, Alyssa. Appreciate the call. How about if I show up and dress in a flamboyant suit and pretend I'm Jackie Childs from uh the Seinfeld. Were you a Seinfeld fan? No. So, way over my head. Oh, Jackie Childs was this I'll look him up. Yeah. He I guess he was he was imitating Johnny Cochran, which is another name that probably went over your head. No, I I I know the name Johnny Cochran. He was the lawyer for OJ. The glove don't fit. You know, quit him. So, Jackie Charles talked like this and said, "You look hideous." Because Kramer came in one day and was wanted to sue the tobacco companies because he his face looked bad from smoking a lot. Oh, so okay. Wait, Jackie Childs is an impersonator in a show of Johnny Cochran. Correct. Okay. He's like a parody. I'm looking at him right now. I I I can see it. I can see it. Well, client simply driving through your state. He did not see any construction. Did not see any construction workers. Please do this. Please go to Maryland and document this. And And yeah, you got to come in. I'll come I'll come with you. I'll be in the in the in the uh the crowd of the courtroom. Your honor, it is a pleasure to be in the state of Maryland. Beautiful. Love the crab cakes. Uh all right. Who's uh who do we want to talk to next? John. John's in Ocean County. John says, "Don't pay it." Good. John, what's up, John? How we doing, Dennis? It's great to hear your voice on the air. You're a good guy. Thank you, John. Good guy. Thank you. Uh I wouldn't pay it. No, I wouldn't pay it. Scratch. So what we got a lot of ambitious callers that just want to hand over with no no reason at all. I got a ticket years ago out of state. They told me the cop told me just pay it. I paid it. It meant that I was guilty and they took my license for two years because I paid a ticket that I really should have never paid. I probably could have fought it if I went down there. Where was it? What state was this? What were you ticketed for? Carolina. Yeah. What were you doing? shooting shooting something out of your car. No, it's it's really funny. I got pulled over picking up a friend from Florida for having uh there was a ziplo bag in the trunk that looked to appear to have residual of marijuana. So the ticket said under smoking use of a schedule one narcotic and it was an automatic revulsion of light of your license if guilty. I was young. I figured let me just pay this before my mother finds out. And I wind up losing my license for two years. I wind up hiring a lawyer and he got me my license back after a year. But if I would have known any better, uh, I there was no marijuana in the car. It was just a old Ziploc. It was my buddy's car. There's an old Ziploc bag he had in the trunk, but he said it had residual in it that looked to be marijuana. Yeah, that wouldn't hold up here in South Carolina. Yeah, I wouldn't pay it. Um, all right. John, is your mother Is your mom still with us? Yes. Thank God. Thank God. Does she know about the uh ticket in South Carolina in the back? down out down and uh I got a lot for it. I did. I got a lot. Couple lefts, a couple rights, but we we got through it, you know. All right, John. Thank you. Appreciate the call. The New Jersey 1.5. I was very ready for John to give the unfortunate news. His mother was no longer with us. You're on it. You're retired now. Different rules. Bring it back to life now. Different rules. I saw his age, 35. I figured, Mom's got a good chance. You're never safe. You're never safe. The old joke here is whenever I ask somebody, "How's your mom? How's your husband?" "Oh, he passed away a couple of days ago." John's experience, and I mean, obviously your ticket wasn't for having residual marijuana. But yeah, I mean, if I wouldn't just pay a ticket for that. That is a ticket that I feel like you should fight. And granted, he said he was young, but I if I didn't have that, I would have tried to fight the ticket rather than just go for it just cuz the cop said, "Hey, you should pay this." Well, I'm going to read it and see for Yeah. Rather than drive all the way down there, he figured he'd pay it. And that's an admission of guilt when you pay your ticket. Uh we have to break. We do. We do have to break. All right. And then we'll talk to Gina and Tony and uh more of your calls coming up. Have you ever got a ticket out of state? And these electronic tickets, speeding tickets, now we don't have them here, but they have them in Delaware and Maryland. So if you're going south, look at the signs. Uh your calls coming up. 7:44. We'll check fast traffic in just a couple minutes. Five 7:50. Uh Steve Treval's radio program. Steve is off tonight. So, I'm Dennis Malloy. Kyle Forscini is helping me uh take the calls here. Uh we're talking about getting tickets out of state. I got two tickets same day. We got a nice ride to St. Michaels, Maryland. I would highly recommend a nice day trip there. Had no idea these construction zones had cameras that clocked your speed. So now I owe Delaware 121 and Maryland 120. So, $241 for crab cakes. At least the trip was nice. The trip was nice. You know, they got you though. They got me for sure. Um, Gina is in Peton. You're on New Jersey 101.5. Hi, Gina. Hi, Dennis. Where do I begin? Okay, I just got done laughing at your Johnny Conchran impression. Um, if Judy was listening to asking that guy if his mom is still alive, she was shaking her head in fear. I never got to call and say, "Happy retirement because I was working that day. I've listened to you guys since I was 20 years old. I'm going to turn 54 on Saturday." Oh my god. Wow. I met you at Jens. I met you at your 25th anniversary. I think I gave you a a book. No, no, I couldn't do the cruise. I think I gave you a book about cooking pizza or something. Oh, what? That was you? Yes. So, that's so nice. Thank you, Gina. I feel like and I just told my friend, I said, "You are the guy that every woman wants to be their father, their brother, their boyfriend. You're an amazing man." Ah, wow. You're so missed. That is so sweet, Gina. Thank you so much. That's you're you're so sweet. On the topic. Yes. I'm sure you've seen a Bronx Tale. Yes. So, my thoughts are when he tells the guy, it's on a much bigger scale what you're dealing with. But when he tells the guy about the guy that owes him $10 and the aggravation chaz Palmary or whatever his name is and he says the aggravation of chasing that guy down for $10, just pay it. You're a beautiful person. Pay it and never think of it again and go on with your beautiful life. All right, that's sounded that's probably what I'll do. Gina, thank you so much for the kind words and the sound advice. But yeah, and did you see a Bronx Hill kind? Never have. Oh. Oh, you got him. I I know the actor Chaz Paliti. Palari. Palter. I know him. I've never seen the movie before. Nobody cares. You know that about me. I I know I don't know movies. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. He's telling little collo. Is it a mob movie? What's the deal? Kind of a little bit. Yeah. I can't see him acting in anything other than a Yeah. He plays a mob guy named Sunny. Yeah. Okay. Like the local mob boss. Yeah. Yeah. I've I've heard either you talk about this or someone has talked about it. He's the one that said the famous line, "No, you just can't leave." Okay. And when they So there's bikers take over his bar and they start, you know, being wise asses. And he says, "Listen, give them the beers, you know, to act like gentlemen. They're fine." Then they start spraying beer all over the place and throwing stuff around. And he locks the door and he says, "I asked you. It's nice, but now you disrespect." something like that. He goes, "No, you just can't leave." Is this movie pre-90 or or post 1990? Around the right around the ballpark. If it's in the 1990s, I I could go back and watch it. Anything pre-190, it's like this isn't going to hold up. Yeah. No, it holds up. It holds up. It holds up. I I I'll take your word for it. Yeah. One time my parents had me watch Fargo. You ever seen that movie? I tried to get up. I know. I tried to get somebody to watch that. You know what? Roadhouse. There's a new There was a Is it Roadhouse? with uh Patrick Squeezy. There's a new there's a new one with Jake Gyllenhaal. Okay, that's a little crazier and and and and more action. Went back and watched the original and it didn't hold up. Sad. But no, this this movie holds up. Okay, I'll have to I'll have to give it a potential watch. All right. I won't guarantee it. No, you you should. Next time I see you, you will have watched this movie. Okay, you got it. Colleen in Tabernacle. Hello. Oh, finally. I've been waiting to welcome you back. Oh, thank you. And I love you. And we hung out in high school. I ran into you at PJ's a couple St. Patty's days ago. You didn't remember me, but you hung out at BF. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. There. So that there was a BF Goodriidge plant. It was a tire company. They had a plant in Riverside and and behind there was like woods, trees, whatever. And us teenagers would get beer and go behind BFG Goodrich and drink and Colleen was one of them. They did. And Yeah. And you ran into it. Paula, her house was at the top of the hill. Absolutely. And you mentioned her and then you did give me a shout out the next day. Okay. However, I want to tell you this. What? Um, I think they got you cuz you are a New Jersey license plate and I think we miss you. Everyone misses you. I've been listening to you since uh we graduated high school. I think if you did a GoFundMe, I think you'd be against it. But you get that money in a minute. In a minute. In a minute. Because everybody loves you and misses you. Oh, that's so sweet. That would be so wrong. But you are so sweet. Thank you, Colleen. But you could do it. And the other thing is don't waste your time at St. Michael's. go to Rock Hall, Maryland. Okay. Or Chester Town. I've been to Chester Town. I used to go crabbing there as a kid with my dad. So I've been to Chester Town. Yeah. It's a cute little town. The little Rock Hall um part of it is a very quaint and they have river crabs. I'm a crabber, clamber, fisherman to this day still. And um my grandfather came from Forscu. Really? You're talking my language. Fortscu. All right, Colleen. We got to run. Thank you so much for calling tonight. I appreciate it. Oh, he's gone. All right. Uh, we got time. Where we at? Uh, we got to hit a break. Okay. Got to hit a break. Uh, so Dennis Malloy here. Kyle Forscini is with me and the next hour we'll be talking about something else. I think I I Best thing to do is start that GoFundMe and pay the ticket. No, I'll pay the tickets. Uh, so I can be welcome back in southern states again. 757. More to come. Don't go away. Join the conversation. It's 8:10. It's uh Steve Trevalis's radio program. Steve's off tonight. So, I'm Dennis Malloy. I'm filling in. I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to be retired. I got to be honest with you. People were like, "Are you bored yet?" F no. When I saw you when you came in the other day, I was telling uh well, I told Judy and EJ in confidence that got leaked on the air. Might have been my own doing. I said, "Dennis is glowing." I said, "All right, maybe I shouldn't have said it like that." Here's the thing. You have a good time. I loved working with Judy. I loved the 32 years I was here. Um but now like the pressure is off. There's just and then there wasn't a lot of pressure but you as you know we have duties off the air too. Yeah. That we have to um fulfill and uh feels good. Just feels good. I was down the shore a lot this summer. I got to enjoy that. A lot of time with my family and friends. Got to enjoy that. So, I'm I'm feeling good. Which I was glad because I was like, "Ah, how's this going to go?" You've done it for so long. You're so used to it. And then and you know, before that you were doing a lot of the 4 day a week or then it was I got time to use, you know, easing into it. And you kept saying I'm having a great time, you know, not doing it. So, I think I'm going to be fine. And I barely hear from you. So, obviously you're doing great. Like, who is this guy? I It's good. And my dad retired at 65. Um, all my my brother's retired, my sister's retired, my some of my best friends are retired, so there's plenty of people around. I got together with a bunch I'm sorry to be, you know, selfish for a moment, but I got together. My friend Steve lives I have a place in Atlantic City and he has a place in in Brigantine like 15 minutes down the road. Got together with him a lot more this summer than I ever have. And one night he had about three four other couples and we all went out to dinner. And these are guys I I grew up with and went to high school with and grew up in the same town in Delran. So we had a lot of catching up. It was great. It was just like doing stuff that I did just didn't take the time to do before. Yeah. I was going to say, were they people that you kind of lost touch with when you retired you hit him back up or they found out? And Yeah. And even with Steve, I always kept in touch with Steve. Steve and I were born on the same day. We went to high school together. grew up in the same neighborhood in Delran and then um so we would stay in touch but I wouldn't get together with him that much. Now I'm getting together with him all the time and then he's he's got a larger circle of friends that I remember from high school days. It was just great. Anyway, we want to talk about cell phones and the fact that some school districts are saying no cell phone in the classroom. Cherry Hill I think was one of the first to start it and they said I put them in the little pouch and which is what this Trenton High School is doing too. put them in a little pouch. And I think Cherry Hill did it last year. Yep. Yeah. It's been at least a year since they started. I remember that being a big deal. And El Trenton did it. And I saw video of the kids' reaction to it the other day. Wasn't good. Was not good. And you imagine you be a teacher or a principal or a guidance counselor at this high school. What are what are you? They're running like crazy through the halls and out of the school. What are you doing? And they're chanting something. I don't know, we don't want to do it or f your pouch or whatever. What do you do as a as a, you know, an authority figure? What do you do with these kids? Out of control. Well, I think it's a good idea to take the cell phones out of their hands for class time. Put them in a pouch. End of the class. Take it back out of the pouch. You're on your text who you want. Send penis pictures to whoever you want. I was going to say, is that what they're doing in school? I was gonna say deep pix. So you send a deep whatever they're doing. Fine. But when I'm teaching you biology, you're gonna look at me or at least gonna hear me and not be on your playing Tetris on your phone. I go back and forth on this. So I was telling you that in the break where I I'm closer to being the age of being in school. It wasn't that long ago for me, so I remember it. And I grew up in the same generation that these kids are now where I had a cell phone, I had social media that was all readily available for me when I was in high school. on your phone in high school. Absolutely. Okay. And so, did you always have it out in in class? See, I don't remember that. I certainly didn't have it out the entire time in class. It wasn't like I was sitting there on my phone. I mean, I'm sure there were times. Yeah. I mean, that that's normal. And I was I was telling Rick Rickman off the air before we started tonight that I was surprised at how apparently out of hand it's gotten because these kids aren't that much younger than I am. I remember that. I've been there. We weren't that bad. There wasn't this whole fuss about this when I was in high school. But you were you were in the beginning of social social media on a on a cell phone to an extent. That was more when I was like 12 or 13. So all the way through 18, like that stuff wasn't as new anymore. That was full-fledged, you know, we we all understood it. We all knew what you could do with it. And so I But you weren't born with everybody having it. Now these kids were born with everybody having it. And I remember being on a date with a woman and she was getting texts from somebody and reading her text when she was with me and I was like, "What? That's rude. What are you doing?" Now, everybody gets text while they're with their significant other or whoever and we just expect you to be looking down part of the time when you're we're talking to you. But if I'm teaching you a class, unacceptable. And and to that point, I would agree with you. Now, I know that there was another school district, which I believe was brick, that wanted to ban cell phones from the entire property on the school grounds. Like, you can't even bring them on the school bus. Mommies aren't having that. That was a lot of push back from parents and from kids. That I feel like is overkill. I I really do. I agree. I agree. Put them in a pouch during class. That's it. Um, not having it on the grounds. this whole school school shooting thing and what do I do if Tyler texts me and there's a school shooting that didn't happen when I was a kid. There was no school shootings and there was no cell phones and there was there was nothing. So my parents, you know, they put me on the bus. They didn't put me on the bus. I walked to the bus. They saw me at 3:30. If they didn't see me at 3:30, they didn't worry until 5:30 when it was dinner time. Yeah. Well, that was the whole rule, right? Like go out, do whatever you want. Just make sure you're home for dinner and then after dinner, just be back by 11 o'clock. But far different era then it is now. Sure. And there's a whole generation of parents who are used to having constant communication with their kids cuz the first time you give them a cell phone at now eight or nine or 10 maybe even earlier probably like text me when you get to Timmy's house. Yeah. You know and and you're used to that. I get it as a parent that's what you're used to. Um, but in the class, so you don't have to ban them from school grounds, but in the class, put them in a pouch, put them away. You don't need to send Dicks to your buddy or your girlfriend or whoever you're sending them to. Um, your buddy. Hey, what do you think it is? I think that I really do think I kind of go I see your point of view cuz I agree with you. You're in class, but it's very easy for us to stand here and say, "Pay attention when you're in class." Not being in that situation. I've sort of experienced it where I get it. You're going to be on you might check your phone for a second, send a text to whoever, but also I know you know people who have worked in schools who tell you the atmosphere is out of control. The kids are crazy. They're the worst that they've ever been. These cell phones need to go bye-bye. So maybe it does. I could be swayed either way. If you tell me that the kids need to have them because guess what? It's the 21st century and this is the world we live in. Figure it out. Have the teacher at the start of class take them and put them in a bin. Give them back after that. what they're doing with Trenton with this yonder where you got to have it in in like a satchel or a pouch or whatever and you can't have them at all throughout the school day when you're in the middle of class walking to your next class you got to pretend it's 1950 and not have your cell phone like come on these kids are not it's not how they're grow it's not how they're raised you can pitch and moan about it all you want that's the case of that's their life I thought what Jerry Hill had was they have these pouches in the front of the classroom and you just stick it in the pouch and then during class you don't have it end of class you grab it so what I got from from the Trentonian thing from uh what's going on with the Trenton High School. They're putting them in this pouch called a yonder, which it's either yonder or yandi. I don't know exactly how it's uh how it's an article I sent to you. It is. Yeah. And they have a a magnetic lock that gets locked at the beginning of the day and then when school's over at the end of the day, they can use something to unlock it for you. So basically, you are without the phone for the entire school day. If you think that's fine, awesome. Again, did you see the video of the kids freaking out? I didn't see the video, but I saw pictures of it. And look, I mean, I get it. I really do. All right, let's uh let's take some phone calls. Uh yeah, I could see having it in between class. You can get back to it and text your what mom or whatever. Yeah, but during class. I agree with you there. Okay. I agree that you shouldn't be just scrolling Tik Tok and sending the pics in class. Um yeah, save it for in between class. Uh 8:19 time for New Jersey fast traffic. So we're back. It's 8:24. Steve Turley show. Dennis Mallaloy here. Uh so we're talking about cell phones in schools and uh I it's a no-brainer. I I look at it from the perspective of the teacher. Um if you're trying to teach a class and kids on his phone, listen, I'm addicted to the phone. It I sometimes watch TV and I'm I'm playing a little game on my phone. Um, or you know, I'm smoking a cigar on my deck and I'm scrolling through Instagram. I'm addicted to it, too. But I'm I'm not on I'm on the air with Kyle now. I'm not on it now, am I, Kyle? No, we're both not. Yeah, because we have a job to do. You're in CL. First of all, school is BS. I agree. School is stupid. I hated it when I went. I hate it now. It's an 18th century model of teaching children. It's just busy work. It's dumb. But you got a teacher who's, you know, spent all that time in teachers college and I have a certificate and I'm a member of the union and then you're supposed to listen. So as a respect for that person who's trying to teach you something, put the thing away and not every kid's going to put it away. So put it in a pouch near the door when you come in. Simple. and then end the class, grab it, send deep pics, whatever you want to do before you get to your next class. Uh, and have yourself a good time. Next class, put it in the pouch. Again, it's it's very simple. So, um, what do you think as a parent, as a teacher, as a former student, maybe as a kid, maybe you're a kid listening, love to hear from you. 1 8002831015 is the phone number. We have an expert on cheese on the line. Um, I don't know if it carries over into cell phones or education, but Brian the Cheese Guy. Hi, Dennis. How are you, my friend? I'm good. How are you? Good. Good to hear your voice, and it's great to hear you're working with uh Kyle. Yeah. What's up, Brian? I don't know how I conned him into this, but somehow I did. Oh, you must be. Maybe you should come sell cheese. You're pretty good. Uh, pretty persuasive. So, Brian, I had your homemade mozzarella the day I left. You brought a whole bunch over. Everybody loved it. It was delicious. I'm glad. I want to I want to make it, right? So, I go online and I'm looking for renet or whatever I need. And then then I found a kit where I could either make rot or mozzarella, but I have I haven't tried it yet. What What What should I do to make homemade mozzarella? It's It's not going to be the same because you're going to use uh store milk. You have to remember the milk that we're using is that's that's right out of the cow direct. Wait a minute. A totally different process. I was somewhere over the weekend where they were selling whole milk in New Jersey. Oh, it's raw milk. Raw milk. I'm sorry. Raw milk from the Amish. And it says on there, not for human consumption. It's for pet food. Pet food. But you can get So that's the way you can get it in New Jersey is you got to buy raw milk from the from the Amish. And it it says on there not for human consumption. Yeah. You we we make that from curd. So that that's what I made you. So do I get some curd? Where do I buy kurd? But is it cheddar cheese curd? What kind of curd? No, it's it's just it's mozzarell mozzarell curd. So, just go over to my friends over there at uh at Claudia's place over by you. Which which uh they they have Kurd there. She'll get it for you. We'll get it for you. Just hit hit me up on the All right. Let's talk uh cell phones here. Very different topic. And so, it's so funny you you guys bring this up. So, my wife is a school teacher and she's a third grade teacher. So, her big thing is the eyewatch. A lot of these kids have eyewatches. Third grade, 8 years old. You got an eyewatch. Apple Watch or is an eye is eyewatch something I never heard of watch. Okay. Apple Watch. Sorry, Kyle. I'm an old time. You're talking to a to a younger person here. We got to get this right. Yeah. So, I said to her, I go, "What's the big deal?" She goes, "What's the big deal? They can record her. They could take pictures of her. They can send stuff to their parents. Like, there's just there's that boundary. It crosses that boundary. But more importantly, just at dinner tonight, I'm just left dinner with my with my boss and and actually both of my bosses, the big cheese and yep, the big cheeses. And the waitress was showing us on Snapchat. They could take a picture of you with AI and make you like kissing a woman or doing this or and you can't tell. So imagine what you could do to your teacher with a picture. You take a picture with AI. There's so much stuff that they can do and alter, you could really get somebody in a lot of trouble. Yeah. So, yeah. No, no place in in a school. No place in the classroom. In the classroom. Now, in the school, I I I get it. Like, if there's an active shooter, you know, and the teacher can throw the pouches to all the kids and go, "Here's your, you know, tell tell mommy you're okay." Um, but in the class when she's teaching, I agree. No cell phone whatso Yeah. Again, you could be taking picture of the teacher with the cell phone or the eyewa or the Apple Watch and then do all kinds of stuff with it with AI. It's We're in a scary world right now. All right. The only thing AI can't do make cheese. Make frigin cheese. That's right. All right. Thank you, Brian. Take care, D. You, too. Thank you. I'll be in touch about the uh curd. The curd. Got a whole lesson on how cheese is made. I just figured this out. I've been making homemade tomato sauce from Jersey tomatoes. Nice. And I grow these hot peppers. These little Yeah. Killer chili. Yeah. Throw back to when you used to make lunch. Yeah. Those are the days. And now I I dry them. I hang them like a little old Italian lady. I hang them in my shed and then I flash fry them. Okay. Oh my god. And those go in the tomato sauce. No. No. They they turn black. And you can use them with meatballs or steak or pasta. Delicious. Hot still. Oh. Hot and smoky. Wow. And then you store them in olive oil. It's a ridiculous. I have to try one of these. It's a South Philly thing. I haven't seen it anywhere else. Anyway, it is 8:30. More to come. Don't go away. 8:38. It's Steve's show, but it's Dennis Malloy and Kyle Forsini filling in tonight and talking about cell phones in classrooms. There's no place for that. And some school districts have cracked down on it. I think Cherry Hill was one of the first and they were smart about it. Yeah, put it in this little pouch in the beginning of class and then grab it at the end of class so your mommy doesn't freak out worrying about a mass shooting. We get it. We got those today and everybody's got a cell phone today. So, we get it. But when Mr. Clemnik is uh, you know, trying to explain trigonometry, got to pay attention. It's the whole thing like my and that's the other thing I wanted to maybe drift into. It's getting later in the hour. My son has two little girls. They're seven and four. They have not spent a day in school. He homeschools them. And you know, I went down there to visit in the spring and they're not like, "All right, it's 8:00. Going to sit behind the desk and let's learn." They teach them as they as they go along. I mean, it's And the girls are bright and they're sharp. Yeah, I remember meeting them. Yeah. They're bright and they're sharp and that's right. They were here for uh my last day. Yeah. Last day or second of last day, right? Um cuz I always wondered how does that work and how do those kids turn out and the kids are great socially fine and they you know have other they'll get together with other parents who homeschool and do trips and you know since they're in Florida they do went on a dolphin cruise and whatever. It's fine school the way we educate kids is a like I said it's an 18th century model of educating children. It's stupid. It's pointless. It's a whole it's a racket. It cost us a ton of money in New Jersey with our property taxes. It's dumb. Move on. Update. Come on. Yeah. I found most of the stuff pointless that we did in high school. It It's busy work. It's When you're younger, it's to send the kids somewhere so the parents don't have to worry about them. They're in school. They can go to work. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. I I I was always the kind of the same skeptic on homeschooling as you are. I know you've seen it more than I have up close firsthand. But there's no need for it. But listen, my son and his wife are fortunate enough that they can be home and they have the time. Yeah. Anyway, let's see what the folks have to say cuz they do want to talk about it. And Walt is in Pennsylvania. Hello, Walt. How you doing, Dennis? Good. You say phones are fine in school. Why can't they disable them? Yeah. I mean, they have to have the technology that once you cross into the school zone in the school that they're allowed 911 calls and maybe their parents, but the internet is disabled. How about playing games? Cuz that's what I'd be doing. I'd be playing a game on my phone. I would I would say the same thing. Completely disabled. Disabled. I mean, in case of emergencies. So, so they, you know, there's an active shooter and somebody turns the Wi-Fi back on or whatever. No, there I'm sure they have the technology to be able to still let your phone activate 911, right? I can just see that there's going to be so much push back from that already. Just the fact that it's my phone, it's my property. It's not property of the school. People are going to have the whole to-do about your phone getting blocked from certain things. Now, I know Walt, when I was in school, we had Chromebooks, what are which are provided by the school, and that had a lot of stuff blocked, but they're the school's property. I don't know how it would work with the phones. You bring up a good point, but yeah, it's it's again, I go back to the teacher. If I'm a teacher, I don't look at a kid looking at his phone. You going to pay attention to what I have to say? It's demoralizing for the teachers and it's and it only breeds more trouble I think if you let them run a muck. You mentioned you mentioned have the students drop off a phone at the at the teacher's desk right you've seen some of the attacks on teachers when they try to take a right kids phone apart now it's not worth the injury to the teacher. True. Uh, if I if I was in charge, I would arm the teachers with stun guns and tasers and I'll I will taser your ass if you don't sit down and shut up. And I mean, first kid to see another kid get tased. They're not going to be on their phone anymore. No. Give it right up. I saw what happened to Timmy. All right, Walt. Thank you, my friend. Appreciate the call. Yeah, I listen. I went to Catholic school. They beat me up if I got out of line. And I don't looking back, they were right. I don't have a problem with it. Different world today. I get it. You can't hit a kid. Tase them. Yeah. I don't know if I do that, but you know, in Dennis Malloy school, we'll bring out the tasers. Your enrollment will be five, but you'll have five kids that are growing up to be strong, independent people that aren't afraid of anything. Exactly. Or are terrified of everything. The taser that those things shoot out and they stick in your skin, right? Yeah. Yeah. But the stun gun, you have you just press it up against the skin and it does the same thing. Okay. So you're you're advocating for taser or stun gun. Stun gun. So up to the skin. Yeah. Okay. Got to get close enough to the kid. I feel like that was a thing I never did, but that was like a college thing. You're drunk. You taser yourself. See what it feels like. Oh, really? I didn't do it. Other kids did. I was certainly that happened. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any tragic results? No. No. Everybody was okay. Thank God. Uh other than they they they turned into uh [ __ ] liberals after four years. That was Johnny. Yeah, that happened to him. I got tased. I got drunk, fell down, and got into a fight. But the worst part was I came out hating my parents and voting Democrat. All right. Uh M. Hey, listen. If that offended anybody, good. Michelle in Pennsylvania. Hi. Hey. Yeah. Um um sign me up for Dennis Mall School. Sign me up. This semester we're full. We're full this semester, but uh check with us in January. All right. So, what do you think about this cell phon? I think it's I'm trying to be polite because I I know that people are listening and I know that, you know, I can say and can't say certain things, but I think the whole entire thing is BS. I think cell phones are the demise of everything. I worked in a school. I am a sign language interpreter. I work in a class with multiple disability kids and I also have four kids of my own. And no, I hate cell phones. I think they're stupid. I think you should take them away. I can't even have a conversation in my car with my children, dropping them off at school without them looking at their phone hund times and them saying, "What did you say? Huh? What happened? What's going on?" In the in the last what, 15 years, I guess, since they've been prevalent with with the internet, smartphones. It really has changed human behavior from kids all all the way up to people in their 60s and 70s. You go to dinner and you see a couple, you know, even an older couple, they're both looking down at their phone. And at first I used to scoff at that, but now it's just part of our lives. As much as you hate it and I hate it, it's become a part of our life. You have to be disciplined to put it down and not let it interfere with real interaction with, you know, your loved ones. It's almost just like an unconscious response where my phone might be sitting next to me. I don't even think about it. I just pick it up. Same here. You know, that's what it's gotten to. And we all do it. That's the same thing. We're we're complaining about people and we're talking crap about people, but we all do it. Michelle, since you actually work in a school, you've got a better vantage point than than both Dennis and I. But what what do you see with the kids now? So, Michelle, I wasn't in high school that long ago. I grew up in an era where we had phones, we had social media, we had the whole thing. I never saw this kind of an issue. We didn't have the ban on cell phones, but we're hearing now that it's different. What do you see being in school that kids are doing now? I see kids on their phone all the time, like heading into school and heading out to school and then like trying to be on their phones when they're maybe going to the bathroom or like in the hall or whatever. Is there is there like a disrespect factor there, Michelle, where if the teacher tries to take the phone, the the kids push back, the kids talk back, they freak out. Like what what's the reaction there from kids? Tasers. Yeah. Yeah. I feel I mean I feel like it it goes both ways. Yes. Sometimes yes and sometimes no. And when you look at the kids, you're like, "Oh, those are the parents who care and those are the parents who don't care." All right, Michelle, thank you very much. Stay well. Thank you so much for the kind words and for the call. Our producer for this evening, Robbie Brown, is here. How are you? Good. Now, you're about same age as Kyle, right? And you figured it out. 30 days younger. He is. Yeah. Yes. Literally the same age. How about that? So when you were in school, they actually they brought phones into the class. Yes. The not your phone, the school's phone. No, our phones. They That was the problem. They said, "Take out your phone." Yeah. We would play specific games. If you might remember, did you ever play Cahoot? Yes, I do remember this. So they would have these specific games where it's on the on like the big board like because that there's a big smartboard, big projector and you can connect your phone through a code and you can answer questions. Oh, cool. And it was called Cahoot is what it was called. But now they must have something different now, Rob, cuz I'm assuming teachers didn't just give up on that. There has to be something that changed. That's a good point, though. That was a good way to implement the cell phone use in class, but make it useful. And you didn't do cahoots every day. That was like a special you're pre prepping for a quiz. We'll do a cahoot to try and do a it's like a study guide kind of thing. It was it was like a game a quiz. So they said let's let's relate to the kids and you know integrate. They adapted a little bit. Yeah. And made it and you're right. And I didn't think that at the time was it called we can call it that in New Jersey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when I was in school they had cahoots. Koots. [Music] I was at somebody's house the other day. They go, "Yeah, we're having cahoots." And I go, "You know what caguts are? You know what caguts are?" No. I think I know whose house you were at when this happened cuz I remember him speaking about it. Oh, really? Yes. Yeah. It was at Bill's house. Yeah. His his wife had a whole bunch of cuckoots. Yep. For those it low Americans out there listening. Yeah. Me. Uh it's it's a zucchini. It's a real long zucchini that hangs from a vine and it looks like a it's bigger than a baseball bat. Really? Yeah. And so when the Sicilians came here or the southern Italians came here, they didn't have cuckoots. They had zucchini, but they called the zucchini koots. And they would make the actual word is coza in Italian. But the way the Italian-Americans bent it was koots. Oh, my mother made my mother's koots. Oh my god. I learned from you that the Italian-American way of English not the same or Italian. Not the same at Do do not use your Italian-American words in Italy. Correct. Yeah. They'll look at you like what? And anyway, um so blame the school for introducing cahoots. Cahoots or cahoot into school. Now we've gone 10 years past that and now it's a free-for-all. Oh yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. I'm glad that Kyle was able to relate to that. I remember that. Yeah. I forgot about it until Rob said it, but that was a big part of of high school. Not so much college. College they didn't do that. But high school we definitely did. Goooots. It almost sounds dirty too though, doesn't it? A little bit. Goos. Goooots. Yeah. Hit him right in the cuckoots. Oh. All right. Uh 8:50 with time for fast traffic. Join the conversation. Uh it's 8:56. Dennis Malloy here. Uh in for Steve Trev. Kyle Forscini is here as well. And our producer for this evening uh every evening I think. Right. Yeah. Every evening. Robert Brown. Um, what was it we were chatting about off there? Was it lesbians? No. Forget um, no. No. Um, we were talking about South Jersey accent. Oh, that was for next hour. Come on. That's Come on. Come on now. Uh, that's for next hour. Kyle, straighten me out. Okay, let's do it. What? I got to straighten you out. What were we gonna wrap up this hour with? Uh, well, we were doing cell phones in schools, right? Then we were talking about a multitude of of things. Uh randomly talking about the Giants running back. Oh yeah. But it was mostly cell phones in schools and we were talking about the cahoots or gahoots. Cahoots, right? And and that whole that whole deal. Uh so Michelle says, u my son goes to a private Catholic school, insanely strict on phones and we are 100% fine with it. Uh and at least five employees in the school carry which is a plus in this world. You know what she means by carry Rob? Don't you firearm. He stays strapped. Wow. Look at Rob. Rob watches a lot of detective shows. We used to have a resource officer. Did you do the same thing, Rob? Where you had a resource officer who was Yeah, we did in in the Marvel. He played a lot of Call of Duty. That's all he would on his phone. No, on in his room. He had a little room and he had an Xbox in his room. I saw it because I saw him once playing and I was like, "What is this?" So, so the the local Yokal cop, the uh what do they call it again? Uh resource officer. Resource officer. Officer Jen Jennings is in there playing Call of Duty. All of a sudden, they got a 479, which is a, you know, an active shooter. 479 active shooter in the school district. And Mr. Jennings, Officer Jennings is like, I would say he's like, "One minute." Oh my god. So he puts down Call of Duty and runs out of the hall and I mean shouldn't joke about it but we have a resource officer in our school too when you were growing up or I was going to say I don't think that was Yeah. But when you were kids were in school or just recently. Yeah. So Oh, you know 709 11. Um when I was in school in Holy Cross I went to Holy Cross High School which is now Holy Cross Academy in Delran, New Jersey on Route 130. Um, we were allowed to smoke on the carport outside like the patio area outside the cafeteria. So, that's where I learned how to smoke because I didn't I was nervous. I was a freshman and everybody's smoking. I was like, I'll have one of those. L&M. And where was this at the school? It was like the parking lot. Yeah, like right outside. It was like a We called it the carport. It was like an awning covered area where you'd wait for the bus. We're out there smoking. Did you guys have open lunch? Cuz you could just drive to wherever you wanted to get lunch or you had to be at the Stay on the ground. You could go out to your car and smoke weed and you couldn't leave. Okay. My mom had the open lunch. She could drive wherever. Did you really? Yeah. What What school district was you? That's shocking. You were in Westfield. Yes. And where was your mom? She probably wasn't far. My mom went to JP Stevens in Edison. I know JP Stevens. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably not far from you. No. So maybe it was more of a North Jersey. Maybe. Which is still though shocking with all the stuff that's gone down in schools when you and I were in school. I can't believe that they that they even let that happen. Cameras scanning. It was a whole thing. So you had to like scan in and out to to go. Okay. No, we had a fat priest that would sniff you. You smoking pot out there? Your father Leforge. And he smacked me across the face a few times. Oh. And I put up my hands. He said, "What are you a boxer?" No, but I'm not stupid. I'm not going to get punched in the face. You ever punch him back? No. No. Just put the hands up. One guy did and he was gone. He was He was gone that day. Really? His name was uh last name was Dick. Yeah, that's all I remember. He was gone. Out of here. Yeah. He punched back. Don't punch back. Yeah. Well, that's unfair if you think about it. They can do it to you. You can't do it back, man. Come on. Well, that's that gives you a life lesson. Life is unfair. All right. All right, we're going to be talking about North Jersey, South Jersey, Central Jersey in a unique way. A lot of people passionate about this. Coming up in the next hour, it's 9:00 and we're back. 909, Dennis Malloy here along with Kyle Forscini and uh Steve will be back on Monday. He just has a couple of Thursdays off this month, I think. And we're talking about um can you John in uh Warren County, John, can you hang on? Uh, he wants to chime in on this. Can Kyle, can you play that little Instagram thing? I got you. You want me to play it right now? Go ahead. Yeah. Did you know South Jersey once tried to secede from the rest of the state? In 1980, voters in South Jersey literally went to the polls and said, "Yes, we want out. They tried to make South Jersey its own state. And honestly, can you blame them? North Jersey has Wall Street money, commuter traffic, and the New York Giants. South Jersey has farms, wilderness, and people who say water. It's been two different worlds under one government for decades. The push for secession was backed by state senator Ernest Shook, who said exactly what a lot of South Jersey folks were thinking. They felt ignored, especially when it came to school funding, road repairs, and Trenton's complete inability to care about anything below exit 70 on the Parkway. So, in eight counties, they actually put it on the ballot. And guess what? Seven of them voted yes. Cape May, Atlantic, Cumberland, Salem, Gloucester, Camden, and Burlington. Everyone except Ocean County. The idea was to create a 51st state called South Jersey. And this wasn't just symbolic. They literally started drafting plans, budgeting, infrastructure, representation. They were dead serious about it. In the end, it didn't go anywhere in the legislature. North Jersey obviously wasn't letting their tax base walk away, and the whole thing fizzled out. But even today, the split is real. Different accents, different sports teams, different vibes. People from Vinand or Galloway don't exactly feel like they're in the same state as Hoboken or Morristown. South Jersey didn't get its independence, but it sure as hell still acts like it did. Yeah, I that was pretty good. Um, that AI voice guy, he you hear his voice, I think. I think it's AI. It is AI. Oh, I would imagine. Yeah. Yeah. Um, unless he's one of those voiceover guys is doing very well right now. Um, I agree with everything he said in there. Um, and I think Ocean County, the only part of Ocean County that is kind of South Jersey is LBI. Okay. That's a very southern tip. Yeah. North of there, Tom's River. Well, that's Here's my theory on this. I divide it into two parts, north and south. because of the media markets. South of that line that runs from LBI to Trenton is Philly media market. North of that line is New York media market. Now there's about a 10 mile swath in the middle where you get a little mixing of both. Yeah. Um but by and large that's a dividing line. Now well I'm from Central Jersey. Okay. Central Jersey is part of the North Jersey media market. If you're identify as Central Jersey, you're a New York sports fan. If you say, "I'm going to the city, you're going to New York." Um, you back in the day when there was local news or local information, you would have watched New York TV and New York radio. Now, that's changed with, you know, modern communication, but it's basically media markets, sports markets. There's North and South Jersey, and Central is a part of the North Jersey market. So, if you're from South Jersey, I would love to secede. I I would I think it'd be great. And the reason why Ocean County voted no is because most of Ocean County is part of the New York media market, not the South Jersey Philly media market. So, I I love this topic. Um, if you how do you identify when you go away? Like I said, when I'm out of of town and I say from New Jersey, go yeah, it's the part of Jersey you never heard of and you don't know about and and the only town that some people, even North Jersey people might know is Cherry Hill. Yeah. They've heard of Cherry Hill. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm the same way as you and I grew up in really kind of on that border, but I was the South Jersey market. I'm looking at the the county map of New Jersey right now. I you're the top the very very tip of Burlington County, which I guess in your book would be the very very tip of C of of South Jersey. I'm real close to that dividing line, but I I never really thought about this until you brought it up. I very strongly identify as South Jersey. Yeah. If anybody asks, I'm like, "No, I'm not from North Jersey. I'm from South Jersey." But again, I'm but also like I'm not Salem, New Jersey, cuz I kind of also do look like, no offense to the Salem people, but you're on a you're on your doorstep playing a banjo half naked most of the time. I was in Salem drive down a dirt road a few weeks ago and you definite different vibe. It is that's kind of like Alabama, you know. So there's like different little groupings of South Jersey as well. You live in a very It's different than where I grew up, but you live in in a part of South Jersey that I understand. I could see. Yeah. You go further down to Salem, you're might as well be in Alabama. Yeah, that's true, too. Uh All right. So, how do you identify Central, North, or South Jersey? And is there some pride associated with that or it's just uh what you're and do you have a definition of north, central, and south? John's been patiently waiting from Warren County. Warren County. I love Warren County. Hi, John. How's it going, Dennis? Nice to hear you tonight, buddy. I used to call in. I drive trucks, so I I would call in when you and Judy would do the where are you now segment. I don't hear that much too often anymore, but we used to talk about the lot lizards and all that good stuff. But uh Kyle, do you know what lot lizards are? I do not explain it, John. John, do you want me to since I'm more more used to delicately explaining things on the radio? Yeah. Yeah, you do that. Uh they would be ladies of the evening that hang out at truck stops and offer sexual favors to the guys. All right, that makes sense. Yeah. And they're not necessarily uh always working in the evening cuz you know truck truckers stop anytime. That's true. And you work a lot of hours, John. So yeah, some might say you deserve this. Yeah. Um, are they John? Is that still a thing? Lot lizards? No. No, it's not. I I've I've been driving trucks for a little while now and I've never encountered that. I've never seen anything like that. So, which is good because, you know, needed to get clean up the truck stops a little bit. So, wink wink, I think. Yeah. That's not a thing anymore. So, so you're from uh Warren County. Now, you're not originally from Warren County. Correct. No, I'm from South Carolina originally. I moved up here in 2013, but this part of New Jersey always just confuses me because it doesn't feel like North Jersey. It feels more like South Jersey, I would say. Warren County, Sussex, and all that stuff because I don't relate to people who live in Hoboken. Yeah, it's got the vibe of South Jersey. I agree. No, I Yeah, I disagree. I think it has the vibe of the Poconos. I think it's more like Pennsylvania. I agree with that. Yeah, definitely. So where what would what part of New Jersey would you say that that Warren County and Suffix in that area? What what how would I describe where I live? I I usually say Northwest New Jersey. Yeah. The only thing that fit. That's what I would say too. Northwest by definition you're North Jersey, but yeah, you could do like the kind of disclaimer of it's not the North Jersey you're thinking about. You are more Poconos. Now where the people around you um do they root who what sports teams do they root for? It's got to be Giants and Jets. You know, it's a it's a big mix. Yeah, mostly uh Giants and Jets. It really just depends on the person. There's not much of a uh not many Eagles, but there are some Eagles fans, but uh mostly the Giants Buccaneers fan. Buccaneers. Oh, well, the Eagles took care of them Sunday, huh? They did. They did. It was a crazy game. A good team this year. It was a crazy game. It was a good team. All right, John. Pleasure speaking with you again. Thank you. Take care. You stay safe on the road and stay away from those lot lizards. Yeah, it's not a thing anymore. Good. I had never heard of that before. You explained it very well. I knew exactly. I I kind of had an idea. Here's the other thing. While we're on that subject, we're all adults. It's after 9:00. I haven't been to a strip club in a long time, but I was telling a friend of mine who wanted to open a strip club. These girls aren't doing it anymore. And if you go to a strip club these days, I think it's going to be hideous because if a real attractive girl wants to doing stuff online, right? Yeah. You got the Only Fans page and you're making much more than you could uh in the club with drunken idiots, you know, slobbering on you and you having to be, you know, drive somewhere. You stay in your room, you turn on the thing. Hey, uh and uh there you go. They got put out of business. The strip clubs that is I think and that's we maybe later in the evening if or people want to chime in on the app chat. Is that still And are the are the girls at the strip clubs hideous? The questions we really need answered tonight. Are the are the strip club girls hideous? 1800. And are they more hideous in South Central or North Jersey? And have you heard of a lot lizard? All right, Rich. Been with one or were one. Exactly. We have to. We have off to break. Right. Oh, we do. Rich, hang on. Rich, hang on, Anthony. We'll get to you next. We're talking about North, Central, and South Jersey. Um, where what do you identify as and why? 9:18 time for New Jersey fast. Thank you, Miss Judy. It's uh 9:24. Dennis Malloy and Kyle Forsini in for uh the vacation and Steve Trevalis is in Hawaii I think. Is he real? No. No. He'll be back Monday. Who know Steve's probably Where does Steve vacation? Steve would vacation in Seaside Heights sitting at Maruka's uh having a slice on the board. Sounds about right. Um all right. So uh we're talking about what were we talking about? Central Jersey. How you identify? North, South, Central. Does it exist? What's up? And we played this little snippet of uh from Instagram where a guy was talking about South Jersey actually wanted to secede in 1980 and seven of the eight counties voted to get out. Ocean County was hold out because most of it's in North Jersey. Now Robbie, our producer this evening, Rob Brown, is from Westfield, which is in Union County. That's right on the border of I said, "Rob, where are you from?" He says, "North Jersey." Cuz that's that's North Jersey. That's North Jersey. It's more of a That's like a suburban city feel to me. It's got Jersey City, right? You're North Jersey. Yeah, that's what I'd say. Uh and but parts of Union County identify as that central Jersey thing. I would say just cuz I'm looking at a county map. Central Jersey is like northern tip of Burlington County, parts of Ocean County, Mammoth, Mercer, and Middle Sex. Okay. Parts of it. Yeah. Cuz if you draw a dividing line straight across the state, it would cut right through Burlington County and the tip of ocean. How about where? Uh, no. I wouldn't. That sounds central. Not really. That borders That borders Warren County and we maybe part of it. However, I was shocked. I know we're going to go to the phones. I was shocked that when you sent me that video, it was from 1980. I figured when you said South Jersey wanted to secede. We're talking 1800s, right? Back when they were doing that all the time. They were trying to secede from everything. I was a kid and that was in the news. And I barely paid attention to the news, but yeah, that there was a movement to secede and that wasn't into local politics or anything like that. So, I paid little attention. So, when the guy said 198 go, yeah, I remember that. Uh, Anthony is calling. No, sorry, Anthony. Hang on, please. Um, yeah, let's go to Anthony. I'm sorry. No, we we did have Rich and I forgot Rich was That's right. Uh, Rich, Union County. Hi. Yeah. Hi, Dennis. Uh, welcome back to uh I guess the night show, but uh yeah, I have two places. I have one is in Tom's River and one in Roselle. And I've been in both places for for many, many years. And since co Union County is actually not even North Jersey anymore. It's basically the sixth burrow between Union County at Hudson. You have all you have all the New Yorkers coming over here and it's complete congestion. Brace yourself rich because if mandani gets elected Yes. They're all be be prepared to sell your house for a fortune because Well, listen and and funny you should say that because I was down the shore in Tom's River uh the other day doing doing something and talking to a retired fireman from Staten Island on his boat and he said everybody is basically going to be running out of Staten Island in the event Mondami uh gets elected. And my cousin sells real estate in Tom's River and since co almost 50% of her sales are from New York. So you know south Tom's River is going to be North Jersey. Up here is going to be the six bar sparrow and I don't know what's going to go on with the rest of the state. All right. Thank you very much for that rich. Stay well. Appreciate the call. Keep surfing too. That's awesome. Anthony in Delaware. My friend Anthony. Pow. My friend can't Dennis my man. Let me tell you something right now. Yeah. Miss you, guy. Miss you, man. Thank you, man. I miss you. I thought about you the other day. Uh, you said, "Do you have my number?" Because if not, me and the boys will show up on the lawn. That's I have you. I think I have your number. I did send it to you in the app chat before. I'll do it again tonight before we hang up. All right. That help. Um, you know, being from Philly and living in Vorhees for 13 to 14 years, it is a it is a a difference between Philly, of course, Philly and South Jersey. But what would you consider Ryder? What is Ryder? What what part of Jersey is Ryder? Well, being from where I'm from, uh, we would consider this North Jersey. And Ryder is right down the street from where we're at right now in in the town of Lawrence. Um, so yeah, I would consider anything north of uh Bordontown as North Jersey. That's the line. Even Even that has a different feel from like Vorhees, Cherry Hill. What? Ryder. Yeah, that area. That Lawrenceville area. Yeah. What What were you doing up this way? Well, no. That's where my son went to school. Okay. The rider. Remember? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Well, if I knew you in the studio, I I would have ridden up there tonight. I forgot. I did see the ad that you were going to be there. I should have uh yeah, I would love to have popped up on you. Um you didn't hear the first hour where uh I was driving through your lovely state of Delaware and got a $120 ticket for I don't know. They just sent me a a uh they took a picture of my car and the license plate and I was going at uh 67 in a construction zone. I got one from Maryland, too, because I was driving to Maryland. Um they take a picture of your car and they calculate your speed and send you a ticket. Yeah, I I got on that same note. I was robbing the night. I was driving to Philly uh last week. I was on about 85. I ran right past a cop. He pulled me over and he let me go. I see. Let me plead my case. This I didn't even know I was speeding or getting a ticket until I opened my mailbox this afternoon and and this was a month ago. So, real quick, South Jersey if if it was his own state, it wouldn't be it would be called something different. Correct. Say if you broke up a little. If South Jersey What? If South Jersey was its own state, it wouldn't be be called South Jersey. It would be called something different, right? I would they I think they planned to call it South Jersey. Yeah. Oh, so it be like Okay. And their team would be the the Eagles, the football team. No, they they would just be like we are now a part of the Philadelphia suburban area. We wouldn't have any teams or anything. M would just be South Jersey, but we would not be. How long did you Yeah. How long did you spend in Philadelphia? How long? I was born and raised in Philly. 12 years. I moved down when I was 12. Yeah. All right. So, I moved when I was 17 and then moved back when I was 30. So, I probably would never have I if Where you from? I'm I'm from Philly. I used to live in Vis. Yeah. I think that would be me forever. Sometimes when I'm uh away, depends on how far away, like when I'm in Italy, sometimes people ask me where you from, I'll say I'll either say New Jersey or I'll say Philly. Yeah. And no one they've heard of Philadelphia, you know. Oh, yeah. And no one in my community heard of Vorhees until we moved to Vorhees. Like nobody ' 83, 84. No. Vorhees was like, "What is that?" Yeah. I I Well, I grew up in Well, part of it in Del Ran. I I don't think I heard of Vorhees until I was 18. And now it's a big A lot of athletes used to live there, still live there. I guess Hadenfield will Montgomery. I met You mean in Vorhees? Yeah, Vorhees now. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I met a ton of them. I used to live around the corner from Rick Mlich and um Yeah. Now the the hot South Jersey town for Philly athletes is Hadenfield. They switched from Borhees. Was this a uh a once a week thing? What you want to hear? Uh they asked me to do a couple of Thursdays. The only this was the only one I was available to do and uh something comes up during the day. Anytime I'll be here. So I just And they'll they'll probably put a notification out when I'm coming in. So thank you aunt. I I'll shoot you my number again. Who which chat should I put it in? We can see we can see all of them, Anthony. So whatever one you send it to, he'll see it. All right. Thanks. Thank you young son Ken. Didn't miss you guys. Thank you. Appreciate that, Anthony. Uh thanks. Great hearing your voice. Thanks for calling in. It's 9:32. We're back on the air. It's 9:40. Steve Trevol's show. Dennis Malloy in. Kyle Forscini uh here as well. And we're talking about North, Central, and South Jersey. And I've given my theory a million times. It's just divided into by the media markets, North and South Jersey. Uh and if you want to identify as Central Jersey cuz you don't like the North Jersey vibe or whatever, that's fine. I understand where that is. Um but it's basically two media markets and it's north and south and uh the north goes to New York and the south goes to Philly and the teams sport teams know that um and now that there's less local media like you would growing up you would watch New York news or Philadelphia news and and same with radio. Um there's less of that now because of modern communications. Uh but there is still a a culture and uh South Jersey is very different culture. We tried to secede in 1980. Seven of the eight counties said yay. I wonder who said well sit down and shut up. Well, I think we know that, don't we? Who wasn't Ocean County? They were the ones they voted no. But I mean, did we need all eight to say yes? Well, that was my thought process that you have to have all eight. And even if you had all eight, where do you go from there? Right. Well, we're leaving. Yeah. Right. No, you're not. Right. It's over. I would not include Ocean County. Although we'd have to give up LBI, and I still believe LBI is part of South Jersey, but that north south line goes right through Ocean County at LBI. All right, let's go to Nick in the Highlands. Hello, Nick. Dennis, I'm not going to lie. I really just called to shoot shoot the stuff for you. Oh, okay. I miss hearing your voice on the on on the radio. It's just not the same. How you How long How long you been living in the Highlands? I moved there about a year ago. How awesome is that place? It's very interesting. I will say that. It's one It's one square mile. It's got, you know, a lot of good restaurants. It's got, you know, it's it's nice. All right. Okay. So there's there there's a negative in there that you're not I'm going to be we me and my fiance will be moving back to Ocean County to brick which is considered the Jersey Shore, right? Well, so you have the Jersey Shore area of New Jersey and then you have Highland and Middle Sex. So the upper portion of Mammoth and Middle Sex which would be central Jersey and then you have Why are you moving out of Highlands? Why are you leaving Highlands? Well, as you know I have a you know my company is in Ocean County and in Mammoth County, right? So Brick is a central location for me to get to Ocean County and Mammoth County and my fiance opened up a studio for her business which is in Redbank. So, it's close. It's just a good location for all of us. Yeah. Oh, the Highlands is a beautiful area. It's just very unique. You you walk away. Yeah. It doesn't look like the Jersey Shore. It's You're You're kind of on a cliff there. It's uh It's really cool. Yeah. It's beautiful. It's really I took my daughter up to that uh she she calls it the castle. Yep. Yep. She calls it the castle because that's what it looks like. Stunning stunning views up there and a stunning uh Yeah. Stunning edifice. All right, Nick. Well, as soon as you come over that Highlands Bridge and you're coming down onto Ocean Avenue. Yeah. And the morning when the sun's coming up and you just see the water and it's beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. It's like you're in San Francisco or something cuz you're on that. Well, Dennis, I hope you're enjoying your retirement and uh we miss you and hopefully uh I hopefully you and Judy could do a like a reuniting of a diner tour or something. We talked about that before I left. I hope we can do that. I really do. All right, Nick. Thank you, my friend. Stay well. Good luck with the move. You, too. Thank you. Um, get Wet Powerwashing. That's his That's him. Yeah. Yes, sir. Nick, I knew him as Nick in Fork River, right? Calling in Nick from Highlands. Who's this guy? Who's this guy masquerading? Uh, Pete in uh Fork River. Fork River. How about that? Hi, Pete. It's Brother Pete. Oh, Brother Pete. How's the gigs coming? I'm coming home from one now. I was just in Lakewood Country Club playing there. A country club? Yeah, Lakewood Country Club. I was just there playing. Nice. The golf crowd. I'll be at I'll be at the Engleside on Sunday for this chatterfest if you're in LBI this weekend. The Engleside is uh right next to uh the Sea Shell. Right. Correct. They're side by side. great motel right on the beach in Beach Haven and they both have pools and both have nice bars and serve food right on the beach or right off we go on at three. Maybe we'll see you. Uh Chatterfest is this weekend. Yes. And uh three in uh in Engleside in uh Beach Haven. All right. Thank you, Pete. Listen, what do you have to say about the Central J? You're saying there's no such thing as Central Jersey? Nope. There's north and south and that's it. Anything from the Raridan Bridge north is North Jersey and anything south of there is South Jersey. Yeah. I mean my friend The reason I'm saying that is because everything from that bridge down is all beachs and sand in the shore area. Yeah. My friend from Union County would say the same thing. As soon as you crossed the bridges um the the uh what is the name of the bridge? Uh Ronin Bridge. No, the uh it's got a name. The Oh, I always called it the Raron Bridge. Oh, all right. Yeah. What did Kyle, what town's it in? Like near Seville. No, it's South Damn boy or birthday boy. Yeah. What? This is ridiculous that I Governor Alfred E. Driscoll Bridge. The Driscoll. The Driscoll Bridge. There you go. Driscoll. Thank Hey, listen. I know the full name. Stay well, Pete. Good luck in the with playing the gigs, Dennis. We miss you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. The Driscoll Bridge, my friend say anything south of that is then South Jersey for me, you and I. I've never heard of the D. No, I haven't either. Oh, I've heard of it, but I have no idea where it is. Yeah. Oh, I I've heard of it now. I mean, since I'm working here and I've been over it many times and when you go over it, like say you're from Iowa or Nebraska and you come here and you have to take have to take the Parkway north and go over the Driscoll Bridge, you're like looking like this is 12 friaking lanes. Is it really? It's a huge bridge. It's ridiculous. Um, and it's and it's if you cross it at rush hour, you better be on the right side of the road or you're a Speaking of bridges. Yeah. You know what one trips me up? my my dad the same way. What the the Delaware Memorial? What's the What's the one where you go up and then you go under the water with the bridge in the tunnel? Oh, that's the Chesapeake Bay Bridge tunnel. What the heck is that? Well, they had to get across the Chesapeake somehow. The Chesapeake Bay. It's freaky though. What's freaky about? You're going up and then you're going underwater. It's bizarre. It's 13 miles. You got a long way to You want a 13mi bridge? You look at that thing from high up, you get a bird's eye view. You're just going straight underwater. Yeah. I don't know how they did it. It's so cool. Oh, it's crazy. I remember when it opened and my uncle I guess I was a kid and my uncle said we got to take a ride down there and check out the Bay Bridge Tunnel. Yeah, it I think it's 13 miles. It's some and I know it's a crazy distance. Yeah, because you're on that thing for a while. Part of it's low slung, you know, you're only like 20 ft off the water. And then there's a suspension bridge where where it goes pretty high. And that was to let the ships come through. And then it goes down under the water. And as you come out on the Virginia side, on the Virginia Beach side, you can make a U-turn and there's a big rest stop right there. Oh my god. Is there really? Oh yeah. Great restaurant. Restaurant rest stop with a restaurant and people fish off the pier right there. Right there. I I know my dad has explained to me how that whole thing works and and but like did you I I how did you enjoy it being on the bridge? I was little when we did it so I don't remember a whole lot about it. I just now have basically see it from pictures. If you took a ride now like going to Virginia Beach with your girlfriend. Yeah. You'd be like, "What? This is so cool." Cuz you it's 13 miles. I know you're you're just over the water. I might be wrong. It might be 20 miles. I'll d I'll double check, but I know that it's a long amount of time that you're there. It's so cool. Uh, all right. Um, we're talking about North Central and South Jersey. And if you want to chime in about the bridges, that's fine, too. Uh, it's 9:49 time for New Jersey fast. And we're back. 9:55 Dennis and Dennis Malloy here. Somebody saying Dennis and Judy show. Uh, it's Steve Tis show. I am Dennis Malloy. That is Kyle Forscini. And we're uh talking about a bunch of stuff uh tonight. right now. North, Central, South Jersey. How do you identify and why? I ran across this little thing on Instagram that uh told the story of how in 1980, South Jersey tried to secede and seven of the eight counties voted yes. Ocean County voted no. And to the South Jersey eye, most of Ocean County is in the northern part of the state. What about central? Okay, it's in the it's in the media market that leans north. Um anyway, so they said no and that was that. But it was interesting. Uh that was 1980. I don't think anybody would try that again now. I different time, different world. But how do you identify uh when people ask you where do you live? And a lot of times if you say New Jersey, it's not received well. No, it's not. It's too broad. It's not particular enough. Well, we are literally for as small of a state incredibly diverse. Like you were saying earlier, South Jersey and North Jersey couldn't be more polar opposites. It's two different worlds. Uh we have more in South Jersey. We have more in common with uh Maryland or u maybe parts of North Carolina than we do with uh North Jersey. Uh John, and it's not that's not to me like you guys are bad, we're good. It's just different. That's all. Nobody's bad, nobody's good. Just different. Uh, unless you live in central Jersey, then you just think both sides are idiots and you're perfect. Okay, John in Somerset County. Hello. Hey, how you doing today? Good. How are you talking about? Good. I can't complain. I heard you talking about the bridge. I think parts of it are underwater for shipping to get things to the ports right in and out. Right. Yep. Okay. Okay. Oh, that's all you want to say? Yes. I mean, I don't know much about any, you know, whatever else you're talking about, the maps and all that. I'm not too sure about all that. Right. But have you been, have you been on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel? Yes, I have. Yes. It's been a long time. But yes, I have. Do you remember like there's a rest stop up there on the Yes, there is. Yeah. Yeah. And people fish off that pier up there all the time. We looked it up. It's 17.7 miles long. Wow. Yeah. It's beautiful. It's a modern marvel. It really is. All right, John. Thank you, my friend. Appreciate the call. Okay, no problem. Take care. Um, have you driven down south at all, Kyle? You're talking about like a road trip to North or South Carolina or something? No. Even not even uh Delaware or Maryland? Uh, I played golf down in Delaware a couple of weeks ago. So, I've done that. The Bay, the uh what's that called? Bay Bay Ridge Bayside. I don't know. No, I went down and played um we played at a place right off of out of Lewis. No, I can't even think of where I played. Baywood. Baywood is Baywood. Yeah, it's not where I played, but I think I golf gets tricky. There's so many Baywoods, Wood Bay, right? Marvel Wood. They're all You got to check out Maryland, you know, Chesapeake uh Bay. There's so many cool places there. And then Virginia Beach. And then I love taking rides down south. It's different. and Myrtle Beach in South Carolina. The Outer Banks in North Carolina, you got to explore a little bit. You're right. I got to be honest, though. Anytime I do any sort of exploring, especially in the area that we are, it's normally up north, like I've very I don't I can probably count on one hand the times I've been to Delaware and Maryland. How about there like Cape Cod? Have not been up that. My brother lived in Boston for a while. There you go. And I've So, I've been up to Boston. I've been to Vermont, obviously, the Poconos and PA. I was just up there earlier this month. Maine. Uh, never been to Maine. That's one I want to get to. Maine is beautiful. I've heard very good things. I know people who are from Maine and rave about it. So, uh, Troy says the Ches Bay Bruce Tunnel 33 miles. I don't know where he got that from. Yeah, cuz we're we're looking at the Wikipedia says 17. Uh, there's a service that provides timid drivers with a driver to take them across the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel for a fee. Hm. I know a woman once from Delaware um was afraid of driving over bridges so she would That's a legit fear. Yeah. Take the uh 95 into Philadelphia um and would not cross the Delaware Memorial Bridge. My dad has that fear. So you've you know this area pretty well. The there's a bridge that you can take into PA takes you right over into like the uh what's the area? Morrisville area. And there's those bridges are real tight. It's not the Trenton makes, but it's one of the ones near that. That is God. Calhoun Street. I think that's what it is. My dad froze froze up on that. I go over it all the time, but you have to bring your mirrors again. I know. It's And what's even worse than the Calhoun Street bridge is the Washington's Crossing Bridge. Is that further down? Further up. Further up. Yeah. Yeah, that's further up. Yeah, further up. North. Y. That is brutal. I was over that last week. Does it have the weird grading as the as the It's crazy. It's take somebody again who's from like the middle of nowhere and have them cross the Washington Crossings Bridge or the Calhoun Street Bridge and poop their pants. Talk about a beautiful part of Jersey though. I feel like that's so not untouched but just not talked about like that Washington crossing area. It's beautiful. Oh, we were in Lambertville the other day. Yes, that area is great. Riding bikes through Lambertville. You and I went to Lambertville once upon a time too. There's a Lambertville station in I think it's called. We had dinner or lunch, whatever it was, right on the on the water there. It's a very pretty area that like doesn't get any credit because it's kind of by Trenton so you get the weird stigma of Trenton and that part but you're far enough away right where and then that area of Pennsylvania is beautiful too. Yeah. Well, New Hope and Yeah. really good restaurants and and good stuff. Absolutely. And north of uh Lambertville on the Jersey side is Stockton which is another really cool little town. Beautiful. All right. Uh more of the Steve Trevol show with special guest Dennis Malloy and Kyle Forscini coming up. It's 10 o'clock. [Music] It's the Steve Trevalis show and Steve's off tonight. So I'm here Dennis Malloy uh along with Kyle Forsini, my former producer. Um so yeah, I left uh August 1st, end of July, retired and I said I would be back and here's uh me being back. So, I'm just doing tonight and um so if somebody comes up you lame during the day, calls in sick, whatever, they'll call me and I come back and which is nice. I I like it. I like it here. I love the people. I love the listeners, too. And then somebody just Shelly said, "I didn't get to hear why you left, but now I see that you're just filling in part-time. Hopefully, you're enjoying your life. It's been great to hear you back on the air." Well, thank you, Shelly. Yeah, it's been uh it's been, you know, I reached the age where I should retire and I thought I'd be working till my into my 70s, you know, but uh I was financially stable enough to uh retire and I didn't Somebody told me years ago, put money in your 401k. Don't be stupid. Put the maximum in your 401k. I was like, all right. And I know what I was doing. Uh and I did and it turned out it turned out well. Good. No, I mean like I'm rich. No, but uh you know comfortable enough to uh be able to retire and I get to go see my grandkids in Florida. Um spend more time with my family and friends that are here. So it's just you know that it was that time. But I love being back here. Um the listeners are great. The people that work here are great. Kyle's great. Judy's great. Uh EJ Deinsky more. Uh I had lunch with Bill and his wife last week. We went to his house for lunch and Oh yeah. And that girl Marissa, she's great. She's great. Thomas is great. Oh, Thomas Dramarco is one of the best. He's the best. Dennis the men is the best. Um, yeah. So, all right, let's take some call now. Robbie Brown is our producer tonight. Love Rob. And Rob, you know I have love for you. Here he comes. Jeez Louise. Is it because I didn't eat your lunch when you were here? Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Rob the picky eater. Not a picky eater. So Rob Rob is waspy as they get, right? Yeah. You're like you should have gone to Chot or uh one of those boarding schools. Oh, absolutely. He This is what I knew. He was from Westfield and a little bit of a upper crusty waspy guy. He wore salmon colored pants one day and I said, "Rob, you know, we like each other. Nice nice guy. We had a nice relationship." And I said, "Let me ask you a question. You come from money. You wearing salmon pants." He said, "Well, I do live in Westfield." Okay, enough said. Anyway, I would bring in food. I bring in all this ethnic food. And I said, "Rob, I made tortillini with pesto today and little brusqueta on top." He's like, "I don't really do I don't like that kind of food." Rob would eat his cup of noodles. Yeah. Cup of noodles. I I've got my my mac and cheese ready for after this show. Dennis, it took a couple of times of offering him food to realize the guy just doesn't like I No, it wasn't anything against. But since I like you so much, I wanted to give you food. I know. I felt like Larry David to you, though. I would just be like, you just made this great food. And people would come in and be like, Dennis, oh my god, it's so delicious. And Rob's like, where's my cup of noodles? And I'm like, you're like, do you want any? I would love to give you some. And I was like, no. I love it. All right. So, uh, it's kind of a PO par. We're going to touch on tattoos because there's a new report out that apparently it says if you're all inked up, you're you're good to go as far as skin cancer. It prevents skin cancer. I heard the opposite about two months ago. So, I don't know where this report is coming from. And everybody is inked up today. Everybody. [Music] I went to a Catholic service the other day. It was an early mass and nuns were there. Two of the nuns sleeved up. What? Sleeved? No, just kidding. Okay. Um, but I wouldn't be surprised. I was gonna say what? I wouldn't be surprised if nuns are tattooed today. That's how many people have tattoos. What would they get? The the final supper on their back. The last supper, Rob. So, you're not a Catholic either. No, I I forgot. Jeez, I forgot. I am Catholic. Oh, you are Catholic? Yeah, I I played Jesus in my passion play three times. All right. It's the last supper, not the final supper. I know. I know. I just, you know, you get catechism, you get smacked around for that one. Oh, I know. All right. Uh, so Rob, put this call through. Mary Bell apparently um is going to be debuting doing standup comedy somewhere in New York. Hi, Mary Bell. Hi. How are you? Yes, I'm good. Good. I'm doing great. I'm uh just getting ready to fly back from Florida to New York tomorrow uh morning and then um I'll be in New York City. I'm going I have tickets to see Chris Roach at Sticks and Bones comedy at Chelsea Table and Stage. Okay. And then at 10:00 I'll be performing at um the Broadway Comedy um in 53rd Street in New York City. Very good. So you have you done standup before? Yes, I have at standup. Um, I've performed also at a Broadway comedy already about two weeks ago. How are the crowds there? Um, good. They're really good. The room probably like 200 people 100 people. 100 people room. Nice. And what kind of what kind of what's your material like? material is all about all about dating and my last name and the airport uh the gift shop what they sell and um emergency panties. Now, can you say your last name? Torres. T O R R E S. Okay. And and you do a whole riff about being Hispanic. Um, I speak a little bit about how I do real estate and how I sold so much more business when my last name was Schnore, a a Jewish name, Jewish word, which means freeloader in um, now that Dr. Torres, it's uh, uh, I don't have as much business, but I changed my name to Marbel. My realtor name is Marabel Maniscalo Bloomberg. That's funny. All right, listen. Mbel, good luck uh this week in New York at the Broadway Comedy Club. It's awesome. Thank you for the call. Yeah, thank you. We could also you love to talk to people who have had brushes with show business. You were in a TV show. You appeared in a movie uh briefly as an extra. Uh you did stand up for a while. You played in a band. Your brushes with show business. New Jersey has a lot of people who were in the business in one form or another. My friend has a bar down the shore and one of BonJov's band members goes in there all the time. I forget his name, but like he didn't know for the longest time who that guy was and he said, "Oh yeah, that's Bon Joy's keyboard player, whatever." Uh, and then he got to know him. He's like, "Yeah, he's But so we have a lot of those people and people who just appeared in TV shows or extras in movies." They they shot a movie in the town that I grew up in Chesterfield not that long ago. Really? It's got Timothy Shalamé in it. Yeah. I don't remember what it's called. I'll have to double check on the research for it. But they I remember there were movie trucks in front of buildings and like I just drove by every day nondescript. I don't know how the heck they found Chesterfield, New Jersey as where they were going to shoot this movie or shoot scenes for it because nobody knows that. M Night Knight Shyamalan. Yeah. Yeah. Shot some scenes in Southampton. Okay. You know where that is? South by me. Yeah. IU at a place called the Evergreen Dairy Bar. Heard of it? Really cool place on Route 70. Really cool. It's like throwback from the 50s. Anywhere near the White Dot. No, that's No, White Dot will be at 206 and 38. Okay. So, if you keep coming down 206 into Southampton and once you hit 70, bang a right and go down a little bit, then you'll hit Evergreen Dairy Bar. And it it's really cool. Ice Cream Place and Diner and he shot his movie came out a couple years ago, Lost in the Woods or In the Woods or uh he shot a couple scenes at the um Evergreen Dairy Bar. New Jersey is really that's why I think a lot of people either have been extras or at least in their town they've seen a movie or a TV show being shot. Marty Supreme is the movie that was filmed in Chesterfield right by me. Marty Supreme. Marty Supreme. I don't think it's been released yet. and look see the might Shyamalan movie that was something in the woods. Something in the woods. Um yeah. So have you been in a TV show or a movie or performed standup or music for a long time? Robbie Brown, our producer tonight, um is doing standup currently. Yeah. You've been doing it about two years almost. Yeah. Almost two years. Also, you're thinking of uh the Bob Dylan movie for the Timothy Charlemagne. He was Bob Dylan. Is that Marty Supreme? Is that that movie? I believe so because he was doing Bob Dylan here. Um the biopic Timothy Shalom. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. I don't think that would have been Marty Supreme though. I don't think so. No, there was that movie was filmed in Chesterfield. I don't know why. Interesting. Not all of it, but like parts. Didn't they um There's a there's a biopic out now. Oh, Springsteen. It's coming soon. Yeah, it's coming soon. October 24th in the only in theaters. And who plays Bruce? Uh Jeremy Allen White. Yes. The guy from the bear and who was also in um that the Iron Claw. He was in that show about the Chicago family. That was Shameless. Shameless. Yes, he plays Bruce. Yeah, he sings too. He is He He's the legit learned how to play the guitar for this role. Uh started singing like Bruce for the role. He sounds pretty good. Sounds pretty good. I'm I'm really not a fan. I just think he as a person he's a [ __ ] Bruce Springst. Um the talent is there. The soul is there. The Jersey heritage is there. I respect all of that. Mhm. As a person couldn't be any more moronic. Now, he's also generous and nice and kind and that's great, too. Wasn't he at the Jersey Freeze when you guys did your live broadcast that day? Yeah, he was there. He was there. I would I didn't get to see him, but somebody told me, "Yeah, he was just walked in." Um, and somebody asked me, "Would I interview him?" Of course I would. He's an icon, and I would be respectful, but when you go to England and trash talk America, there's no more freedom of speech. They arrest you in England for a Facebook post and you're over there talking about how there's no freedom of speech here. Are you you got to be got be brain dead. There's something wrong with you. But like I said, I respect his talent and the whole thing. It's just as as a person, something wrong. Anyway, I that having been said, the Night Show has never heard that before, Dennis. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure Trev goes off. But the movie, I would go see it. Yeah, I would patronize that. It's an interesting story. And and and as long as Lip What's the guy's name again? He played He played Lip in uh Jeremy Allen White. Yeah. As long as he doesn't go off, you know, tirades in the movie with political crap, which maybe he a scene or two you will. I heard that that was in the movie. I'm not going. No, no, I want to go. I want to see it. It sounds like it'll be good. All right, it's 10:19. Time for New Jersey Fast Five. So, somebody on the app chat, uh, Gina, thank you, Gina from Tabernacle says, "Knock at the Cabin was the might Shyamalan movie, parts of which were shot in, uh, South Jersey." Knock at the Cabin. Uh, Eddie K in Manquin says, "Is that the legend, Dennis?" Wow, a legend of these people. Yes, that would be me, Eddie. Thank you so much for chiming in tonight. Um, so Rob's joined us in the studio. Rob Brown, our producer. Um, and we're talking about brushes with show business. You've been doing standup for, you said a little more almost two years. Almost two years now. Yeah. You've done a couple of paid gigs. Yes. Now, I had an idea years ago. I was doing standup part-time to do a documentary on the the the low rung of standup, the m the minor minor leagues of standup comedy. And I think I think Seinfeld might have done a couple of documentaries have been done since I had the idea 20 years ago, but I was doing standup in um Mitchell's Comedy Club in Palmyra, New Jersey and a guy, you know, I was I had been on the morning show in Philadelphia and I just gotten off that show. So I was doing more standup on independently and a guy owned the club. Now Mr. Mistles used to be a biker bar and then it turned into a comedy club restaurant. Okay. So the guy said, "Listen, none of that clean crap that you do." He didn't use the word crap. He goes, "Drop the fbomb as much as you want, as often as you can, cuz these people that I don't like, you know, your squeaky clean yepy stuff." And I was like a new dad. I was doing, you know, stories about doing an army crawl out of my son's room, you know, when I put him in bed at night and just, you know, talking about parent stuff and kids stuff. He's like, "None of that stuff." So that's all I had. So I was like, "Yeah." Yeah. So my effing son, you know, wouldn't effing fall asleep. It It was brutal. And then he goes, "And by the way, I booked you down the road and forget the name of the town, two towns away. You're going to be after your set, you go with the headliner to the this other club, do your, you know, 15 minutes there and bring him on and then you guys drive back here for the second show. 50 bucks or was a pittance." And I hadn't agreed to it. He just said, "Oh yeah, I booked you in there." interesting. And most comics would go, "Oh, okay. Yeah, but this was like a part-time thing for me." And I So I thought the first one was brutal where I had to use the f- word every other word. Go to this place. It's a bar. They pull the plug on the pinball machines and the video games and they pull a stage out like a riser of, you know, about a foot high. Yeah. plywood and they bring dragged that I was like, "Oh man, move the pool table. What the f?" I was like, "What? I gotta go and make these people. They want they want to play pinball and pool and video games and they just two clowns getting up there going so uh how many people from Philly here tonight?" Oh, it was hard. It was brutal. And I thought to my And so the guy I'm working with starts talking to me about about the hookers that you know, do you ever have? Yeah. And he goes, "Oh, working moms are the best ones. Those are cuz you know they they got to feed the kids and they're really, you know, they want to do a Where am I? I I grew up in a squeaky clean family. You know, went to Catholic school for 12 years. And here's this I'm I'm in this bar where the people are booing me before I even get up there backstage. I'm talking to a guy who said he likes single mom hookers. What How long did your set have to be? It it it was felt like an eternity, I'm sure. I I got through it in like eight minutes. It was like It was supposed to be 20 minutes of material. Yeah. So then my effing son. Yeah. Done. And here's her headliner. It's Gary. And I just got him up there and kiss sat at the bar catching my breath. And I thought that people have to see this. People have to see the the ridiculous conditions, the absolute ridiculous pay and the, you know, the the the raw horribleness of trying to get started. Where do these people I mean, a lot of these people are just naturally funny. Yeah. But to turn that into a stage act takes a lot of practice and polish. Yeah. Being just funny doesn't translate. You got to present it and be funny. And that's what Rob is honing right now. He's doing that. He's And I'm sure you know, you were probably funny in your family or maybe in your school. Yes, I was. Yeah. But doing it as stage craft has taken some learning. It takes some time. Yeah. I mean, I did public speaking on purpose um so that I could tell jokes at writer at writer at high school. They they did not like it in high school, but um yeah, I mean that's I've always loved public speaking. So like I've been doing it since I was 12. So it was just transitioning it of just making it just funny. Because I used to I mean they used to tell me like you can't tell jokes while you're giving your presidential speech. And I'd be like, why not? Come on, it's gonna be great. And they'd be like, no, you're supposed to be serious. Um, so how would Donald Trump uh deal with public speaking classes? How would he do you think he was a fan of public speaking classes? Never took one. Never did any of that. I like public speaking. People look at me when I do public speaking. I say, "Hello, how are you? Great stuff to be here." I don't do that type of stuff, Dennis. I I used to, but I don't need them anymore. I've been shot at while I'm speaking, Dennis. It anything can happen, but I survived it because I am thriving. I'm doing great for this country. Yeah, that's awesome. That was well done. Very well done. The best part of it is always the gestures, you know, just the way you move the hands and everything. Some of the key phrases that he always says like, "No one's ever seen anything like it. We did the best job." And it's it's what is he 79? He's got nothing. I think he is. I'm I'm Listen, I've voted for it three times, but I see his flaws and it's now I'm I'm What flaws, Dennis? I'm a humble guy. I come from humble people. I'm a humble guy. The fact that he has no humility whatsoever that he still acts like a 14-year-old in in freshman year trying to impress everybody with it's the best anybody's ever seen. Was the best we've ever done. Okay, let your actions speak. You have to keep and some of these press conferences that go on for like four hours. Yeah, shut up. Do what you got to do. I I'm a fan, but stop talking. Is he part of your your act, Rob? Do you do him as or is that more of like a crowdwork thing and you break into it or is that part of the material? At the bars, I don't do it because everybody does it. Everybody does the drum. But then when I go to places like uh Catch a Rising Star where I have to be a little bit more polished, I'll I'll pop it out there. Oh, good. There used to be a prejudice. I used to do voices and impersonations and there was a prejudice against guys that did imp Oh, you got a crutch. Yeah, you do voices. I said, "Well, that's a talent." And the guys who just did straight material thought it was more challenging just do straight material that I would lean on voices as a crutch. Well, yeah, but it's a talent and people like it, so I do it. And it also they hated prop comics. Yeah, there was a guy called the wi the the wid the incredible wid or the amazing wid work out of Philadelphia mostly and I would MC shows and I would have to come on after him and the whole the stage was littered with his props he would go crazy so it's like keratop worse in a way yeah he was like that he was it was worse um and he would just do silly silly stuff and bring up a prop every time is funny all right um your brushes with show business if you want to chime in tell us where you performed or what movie you were in or extra or whatever. Uh or they filmed on your street. 1 8002831015. It's 10:30. [Music] We're back on the air. It's 10:35. It's the Steve Trevisse radio program. I'm Dennis Malloy filling in uh along with the help of Kyle Forcen and our producer Robbie Brown. Tonight, uh it was the legendary wid was the guy I was thinking of. The prop comic. Um, yeah, I uh I did every Friday night I hosted a comedy show at this place called Going Bananas in Philadelphia on just near South Street, Second and South. So, and a built-in audience doing the morning show and I say, "Hey, tomorrow night, Friday night, I'm'll be and you know at the going bananas and so I would fill the place." Nice. And the guy was very happy that I fil and I did an act. I was started to develop an act. I did like 10 15 minutes up front. Uh an MC brought each act on and whatever. So one night he filled the place up. He goes, "Listen, you you know," it was $125 or whatever. He said, "You did great. I want to give you more, but I don't have the money." He said, "Here's some weed." I go, "I don't I don't smoke." He goes, "Nah, sure you do. On the way home, light it up on the way. Oh, you'll enjoy it. So, I got paid in weed. Yeah. And and one and there was a uh ventriloquist. Oh god, that's weird. Vince Dantona. Vince Vince Dantona and George. That was his dummy. George. And so the waitresses would be walking up and down the aisles of these tables at the club and and Vince would say, "Hey, Toots." You know, the the the the doll the doll was saying, "Hey, Tootsz, you were great last night. Hope you got those splinters out of your lip." [Laughter] H Yeah, those are the good old days. Come on, you got to love the people with the puppets. Yeah, it it No, he said it, right? There's a guy like that in the open mic scene. Don't worry. Oh, yeah. He comes. I'm telling you, if you've never if you want to see, you know, Sebastian Manoscalo is hot and some other I'm sure there's other hot comics today that people are paying a lot to see. Sebastian, I think it was an AC this past weekend, I think. So, too, at the ocean. Yeah. Um, want to see where these guys got started? go to an open mic night, which Rob does a lot, and you see with these, you know, and occasionally you'll see somebody go, "That person has potential, but then you'll see some people like, oh, I'm so uncomfortable. Please stop. Please stop." That's kind of like the risky run of going to those, right? I would love to go, but I would feel like I'd get secondhand embarrassment from the people that just are not good. You do. And I I can't take that. I've brought my friends, Kyle, and I tried to like just bring bring them and and try to give them the whole vibe of it's gonna be a fun night. There's some good guys, but right as I go up afterwards, they want to leave. Done. I'm done. They want they're there to support you, but then it's uncomfortable. I'm not sitting here for the other. Have you ever really bombed like it was a night where you got nothing? Yeah, absolutely. I've had it where you have to. You have to. It's a part of the process, character building, right? Absolutely, Kyle. Because it's the people who uh focus on that. To me, it's all about just having stage presence and being comfortable on stage cuz like too many people are overthinking and then oh no, I can't record like I can't use this recording and I can't post on Instagram and I'm saying to them like you're an open micer. There's like four people in the audience. Uh, one night I was booked in Harrisburg, the comedy cabaret in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Okay. So, I went all the way out there and I brought my friend um with me and he said, "Yeah, I'll go I'll go with you." Just he was the nicest guy. Drove two and a half hours out there. We go out there and it was just like a snowy night, rainy, snowy night and it was like 11 people in the audience and like seven of which were a bachelorette party and I bombed and the only person that was laughing was my friend at the at the bar. He's like, you hear your friend laughing and that's it. And the girls the girls at the bachelor party were like talking amongst themselves or just drinking and staring and just not into it at all. It was brutal. Um the next week I did a corporate event of 2400 people at Vanguard Investments in King of Prussia killed. Just everything I said they were hysterically laughing. So and I just came off an 11 person gig where nobody laughed but my friend that I brought and then you go in front of 2400 people and I was nervous because I fig I just bombed Yeah. last week in Harrisburg killed in King of Prussia. I feel like the these two careers kind of have a little bit of a similar overlap in that radio, you have a bad show, you think you're the worst ever, you never want to do it again, right? Standup comedy, you bomb, you think you're horrible, and this career won't work for you, right? So, is that I mean, Trev does standup comedy. I know you did. Rob obviously does too. There's got to be some sort of overlap or Oh, sure. wired in the head weird where they correlate. But here, you know, you and three of us are looking at each other and if usually it's one or two people in the room and that's it. You don't see any. You'll look at the app chat and you'll get some kind of reaction. You don't see who you're talking to, but you don't see the people staring at you and not laughing. And it's funny if you're up there could be, you know, 85% of the people laughing, but you see the ones that aren't. You focus on that one guy who's just staring at you and like nothing. And some that's how kind of how I am. I'll take it in and enjoy it, but I might not be laughing out loud. Yeah. And and then some you get insecure and you go, "Sir, what you did somebody drag you here? Like what's the problem?" And and you know, then you start especially if it's a front row guy, one that's just right up close. You see him the most and you hear the laughter, but you see him stone cold. It is. I couldn't do it. I give Rob props. You props everybody who's ever done it. Props because I could never do that. It is a character builder for sure. I mean, you got to put yourself out there and memorizing the material that you got like the whole deal. I just I would not be made for it. Uh I don't know. D Connor from Greenville. Hey Connor, nice to hear from you again. Says some kind words. Dean uh also Scooter also some kind words. Kristen uh thank you very much for the kind word. Bill from Absein. So many nice people just uh chiming in to say nice to hear me and hello. Ah. Oh. So Al, who's on the line, uh, is a friend of mine, texted me and said, um, well, Al, do you want to give, put Al on, do you want to give Kyle your advice or you want me to read it to him? No, I Yeah, Kyle, just remember now, you're very young in your radio career, so you did a shift already this afternoon. You're doing another shift. Be careful of overexposure, okay? You don't want to peak too soon here. All right. Duly noted. But anyway, listen. You're talking about standup comedy, Dennis. story. Rob, you're listening. You'll love this story. So, about 20 years ago, I'm bartending at a banquet hall and they're doing a fundraiser for the YMCA. It's comedy night. It's all local people from the YMCA to raise money. I'll tell you in a second what it was for. So, there's about 250 people there and they bring these three comics in from Brooklyn, from New York, you know, New York and good guys, you know, like guys that that been around, right? They spend a lot of money. Mhm. So the first guy comes out and he these guys come from the back. They have no idea what's going on other than there's 300 people. They're adults and everything. He starts to tell this story about this kid who lived up the street from him in the neighborhood and the kid was special needs kid and he uses the R word. I don't even know if I can say it right. So he says, "Yeah, this kid rword who used to live up the street from me. The guy doesn't know that the fundraiser is for parents of kids with special needs. Oh boy. Oh boy. That's no idea, right? And he's just going on telling the story and the place is dead silent. 250 people. You can hear a pin drop. Right. So he turns to me and he goes, "Bartender, what are you putting in these people's drinks? What's going on here?" Oh, I said, "Listen," I go, I yell from the bar, "You're on your own, buddy." I said, "He still doesn't know." So, some guy in the back yells, "Get off the stage. You're not funny." The guy has no idea what's going on. He continues like five more minutes. No one's saying anything, so he just leaves. He gets off the stage. Then they the the the the MC comes out. He brings on the next comic. The next comic has no idea what just happened. And everybody in the place is just mortified about the first guy. He goes on for 10 minutes and nobody's laughing. The whole thing was a disaster. Yeah, it's it snowballs from there. I I did a gig one time in um Philly, Port Richmond, I guess it was, and it was a bar. And um the first guy got up there and he couldn't get any traction because there was this table on the corner that was really loud and kept talking. and he said, "Well, where are you guys from?" "They're from Kensington." So he said, "Yeah, I'm just trying to do my show here." And they kept talking and and they they ruined the guy's act and he had to walk off the stage and I come on next. So I go right in on these people from Kensington. Well, if you don't know, Kensington's a rough neighborhood and I I was ripping them a new one and I was getting laughs. So, I kept on with that and then I did my regular routine and I get off the stage and the guy Barney, same guy that owned Going Bananas, says, "Yeah, you were great. Here's your money. Uh, Jimmy's going to walk you to your car." I said, "No, I'm going to hang out and see the other guys." Then, Jimmy's going to walk you to your car. I go, "Why?" Cuz people from Kensington want to kill you. I said, "Okay." That was like the uh the famous Bill Burr story when he took the people out in Philadelphia. Oh, yeah. At that place in Camden. Yeah. It was awesome. Al, great. You want to hear a new guy, Dennis? There's a new guy. I can't think of his name. He's a heavy guy with a beard and uh he's like a Shane Gillis type, but he's a heavy guy with a beard. I got to send him to you. He does like uh anti-woke, politically incorrect. Goes after like, you know, anti-Trump people like in the crowd. He is he's really starting to take off. I wish I could think of his name. He's a big guy with a beard and he goes after people like like the most cancel culture jokes you could ever want to do now cuz you know the tides are kind of turning now. There there's a woman named Leonardo Joanie not Leonardo Leonardo Joanie she's Albanian American and she is as runchy and politically incorrect as they come and she's been they call her the most canceled comic in the business. And just before I let you go again, it's good to hear you on. I'm gonna bust your chops a little bit here. Y um like one guy text said you were the legend. So as the legend, you got the nice 7 to 11 shift to come back on for Steve Trevise. Maybe next week you can fill in Sunday afternoons from 3 to 11 for Dan Handler, the record handler. Yeah. Somebody else said tonight, oh the night shift. I don't care what shift it is. It's just nice to be back on the air. But it's just fun to get back and connect with the people and you know what I mean. and let him know what's going on. And it was it's great to hear and we got to get that lunch together one day soon. We have to there. Another week went by without doing it. I apologize. All right. I'll talk to you soon. All right. I'll see you. Take care. And he bartends at a local restaurant that I love going to. So, are we late for a break? We're very late. We got to hit a break. Crap. Should we do traffic now or hit the break? Uh, just break. Okay. Uh, more to come. Don't go away. Seven. Thank you and Kyle Dennis Malloy here in for Steve Trevalis. Um and we're talking about standup comedy and show business and stuff like that. Um so Trev chimed in and said the guy I was talking about the um ventriloquist Vince Danton passed away a few years ago. George got everything. George was his dummy. Um I hear he's looking for a partner. Very funny Steve. and I'll be doing hosting a show with Steve uh coming up. And John from Warren says, "Dennis, why don't you promote the Brook Theater event in November, especially since you be going to be there with Trev? Uh you should let your followers know." So, yeah, Steve sent me a um little thing on it. So, it's November 7th. Uh November 8th. Thank you. Yeah, we've been giving away tickets for it. Oh, awesome. And it's at the Brook Theater in uh Bound Brook. Bound Brook. He sent me the uh poster here, but I can't find it. All right. Thank you. Thank you, John. And uh thank you for filling that in there for me. Robbie, uh Greg is in How. Hello, Greg. Welcome to the show. Hey, Dennis. How are you? Good. How are you? Good. Uh I just wanted to let you know uh we really miss you so much. We love you. We miss you. That's very nice. Thank you, Greg. And I just want to tell you real quick about the show to attend the two. Judy, the first two weeks she was floundering. She was like lost without you, my man, because you are a leader in the way you direct that show. Thank you. And she's doing great. Awesome. So, but EJ, yeah, he's okay. But he's a little jelly spine, you know. It's like, yeah, Judy. Yeah, Judy. You're always right, Judy. Yeah. Everything Judy Judy. But we but just to say no, we really miss you and we hope to hear a lot more of you during the day, evening, whenever. Thank you very much for that, Greg. Appreciate the call. And Judy's doing great. I think she I talked to her a couple weeks ago. She said, "It took a couple weeks to get, you know, our rhythm down and it's doing doing well now." And I of course wish them well. And I'll be around uh different shifts, different times. Kyle, thank you. Thank you, Dennis. You did double duty today. Yes. You did the afternoon show. No, midday. Midday with EJ and then back here tonight with you. And then you're back in tomorrow morning. Yes, sir. and working the weekend. Hard where at the Philly Station. Do you mention that on the air at all here? I don't really know if I'm supposed to, so I don't. Yeah. Sports talk. Yeah. Yeah. And we got a big Phillies game this weekend. Phil's Dodgers, man. Phil's Dodgers. Is that who it's going to be? Yeah. Phil's Dodgers. 6:38 on Saturday. 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