Here's proof that not every conversation about race relations has to be uncomfortable or angry. People can have passion about this topic without name calling or fighting.

A caller named Pam was in the car, with three boys on their way to school when she heard me make a statement that upset her. Pam was not happy when I said that cops are more likely to be killed by black males. Pam, instead of calling me names or just writing me off and never listening to the show again, called in to tell me she was upset and to have a discussion about it.

Now the stat is what it is but is does not indict all black people nor does it indict all bad cops either.

What could have turned in to a full-blown screaming match, instead turned in to a positive conversation with both sides able to explain their point of views.

I was recently in Newark and took a tour with Anthony Ambrose because I don't feel it's just a race issue. You could easily make this an issue of cops versus black males, but it's not just about that. Pam mentioned my trip to Newark  and said that "when you start there (Newark) and you start trying to affect change where change is needed, guess what? We can reach some of them."

Both Pam and I agreed that by talking about it, it opens an honest conversation and we can help understand each side's points.

If Pam and I can do it in 5-minute conversation, these type of conversations can be, and should be had by more of us.

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